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From: "Daniel J Blueman" <daniel.blueman@gmail.com>
To: "Rick van Rein" <rick@groengemak.nl>
Cc: "Linux Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Future Linux on Bistable Storage
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:28:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6278d2220806021128h1dd76c16p9ab15142af2fcbdf@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

On 2 Jun, 14:40, Rick van Rein <rick@groengemak.nl> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Future generations of Linux are likely to run on machines with non-volatile
> memories based on bistable technologies.  This will save the energy of DRAM
> refresh cycles and avoid the mechanical problems related to hard disks.  The
> result is probably a computer with no distinction between disk and RAM.
>
> Such computer architectures can conserve a lot of energy, as it is very
> simple to suspend and resume them: no data loss means no time needed to
> resume the system -- except perhaps for I/O initialisation.  Conserving
> energy means (1) having more fun|hours per kg of batteries, and (2) saving
> the planet.
>
> I wonder inhowfar Linux is (already) capable of dealing with such hardware.
> Several core concepts suddenly become meaningless if disk and RAM are merged
> into one storage device:
>  * swapping out data
>  * lazy loading of programs from disk to RAM
>  * buffering disk blocks
>  * mapping and unmapping disk onto RAM
[snip]

Perhaps one of the more key stepping stones here is execution in place
(XIP) support, which at present works for a particular combination of
embedded architecture, block device and filesystem. Maybe that's the
wrong way of looking at it, and we should consider XIP-for-ramdisk
(rather than ROM/flash).

Anyway, from a mmap() perspective, we'd be logically merging the
filesystem and pagecache layers and losing a layer of physical
indirection.
-- 
Daniel J Blueman

             reply	other threads:[~2008-06-02 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-02 18:28 Daniel J Blueman [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-02 12:59 Rick van Rein
2008-06-02 17:02 ` david
2008-06-04  1:14   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-06-02 19:30 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-06-02 20:04 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-02 21:10   ` Rick van Rein
2008-06-03  0:51     ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-03 14:27       ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-03 16:12 ` Pavel Machek

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