From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Alexander Kuleshov <kuleshovmail@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/15] lib/assoc_array: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends()
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:17:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6309.1507735045@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171011122217.GD11106@arm.com>
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> FWIW, that's exactly what my patches do, this fixup looks a bit weird
> because it removes a prior barrier which suggests that either (a) it's in
> the wrong place to start with, or (b) we're annotating the wrong load.
There is a loop involved. The barrier is against the read in the previous
iteration of the loop. IIRC, the reason I did it this way is to avoid the
need for the barrier if there's nothing on the 'after-side' - ie. we examine
the pointer and see that it's NULL or a leaf. However, I'm not sure that's a
particularly necessary optimisation.
So if READ_ONCE() issues a smp_read_barrier_depends() after the read, then
I've no problem with the removal of these explicit barriers.
I will, however, quibble with the appropriateness of the name READ_ONCE()...
I still think it's not sufficiently obvious that this is a barrier and the
barrier is after. Maybe READ_AND_BARRIER()?
Also, does WRITE_ONCE() imply a preceding barrier?
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-11 15:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-10 0:19 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/15] Remove to-be-unneeded smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 01/15] doc: READ_ONCE() now implies smp_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 02/15] mn10300: READ_ONCE() now implies smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 03/15] drivers/net/ethernet/qlogic/qed: Fix __qed_spq_block() ordering Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 04/15] fs/dcache: Use release-acquire for name/length update Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 05/15] percpu: READ_ONCE() now implies smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 14:08 ` Tejun Heo
2017-10-10 15:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 15:49 ` Tejun Heo
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 06/15] rcu: Adjust read-side accessor comments for READ_ONCE() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 07/15] rtnetlink: Update now-misleading smp_read_barrier_depends() comment Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 08/15] seqlock: Remove now-redundant smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 09/15] uprobes: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 10/15] locking: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from queued_spin_lock_slowpath() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 11/15] tracepoint: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from comment Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-10 1:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-10 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/15] lib/assoc_array: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 9:36 ` David Howells
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 13/15] mm/ksm: Remove now-redundant smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 14/15] netfilter: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 15:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 15/15] keyring: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 9:35 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/15] lib/assoc_array: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() David Howells
2017-10-10 15:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:19 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 12:22 ` Will Deacon
2017-10-11 12:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 14:18 ` Will Deacon
2017-10-11 14:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 15:17 ` David Howells [this message]
2017-10-11 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 17:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 17:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 18:43 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-11 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-11 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 19:59 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-11 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 17:19 ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-11 16:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 16:07 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 15:28 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 9:59 ` David Howells
2017-10-10 15:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:21 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/15] Remove to-be-unneeded smp_read_barrier_depends() David Howells
2017-10-11 12:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
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