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From: Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>
To: Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>
Cc: Raistlin <raistlin@linux.it>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	michael@evidence.eu.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	johan.eker@ericsson.com, p.faure@akatech.ch,
	Fabio Checconi <fabio@gandalf.sssup.it>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Tommaso Cucinotta <tommaso.cucinotta@sssup.it>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:08:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63386a3d0909230708g10aa2911vaa39a6e02530c902@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ABA20FF.4020601@evidence.eu.com>

Hi Claudio, thanks for the detailed answer!

2009/9/23 Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>:

> With EDF, instead, the test is much easier: if the bandwidth is less than
> 100%, then you are sure that the deadlines will be met. In other words, you
> can fully exploit processor bandwidth up to 100% being sure that timing
> constraints of EDF tasks will be guaranteed.

This must be under the assumption that all code running in the system
is preemtible, is it not? Which means, negligible or close to negligible
non-preemptible code.

How much as we might like it to be, that is not (yet) the situation
with the Linux kernel, far off.

So we will still very much need the CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT patch
to get closer to that ideal situation, and we still need to get rid of
the BKL.

Well I guess you aldready know that, but take it as a note to
the bystanders of this discussion, which are plenty.

Now I ought to write fewer mails and look into solving that little
problem... You don't happen to know if we can have a EU FP7
project sponsored to rid out the BKL and switch and test drivers
en masse to use threaded interrupt handlers do you? ;-)

Linus Walleij

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-23 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-22 10:30 Raistlin
2009-09-22 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22 12:51   ` Raistlin
2009-09-22 18:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-23 12:19       ` Raistlin
2009-09-23 12:25         ` Dhaval Giani
2009-09-27  6:55       ` Henrik Austad
2009-09-29 16:10         ` Raistlin
2009-09-29 17:34           ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-30 15:58             ` Raistlin
2009-09-30 17:35               ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-22 11:58 ` Claudio Scordino
2009-09-22 12:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 16:08     ` Claudio Scordino
2009-09-22 13:24 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-22 14:01   ` Raistlin
2009-09-22 14:02     ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-22 16:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22 19:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-23  0:51         ` checkpatch as a tool (was Re: [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class) Daniel Walker
2009-09-23  1:01           ` Joe Perches
2009-09-23  1:11             ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 19:24               ` Andy Isaacson
2009-09-24 14:58                 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-30 12:06               ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-23 12:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-23 14:43               ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-30 12:04           ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-23  7:03         ` [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class Raistlin
2009-09-23 21:39     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-24  0:58       ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-22 16:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22 23:39   ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-09-22 23:55     ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23  0:06       ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-09-23  0:40         ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 11:46           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 12:25             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-23 14:50               ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 14:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:08                   ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 15:12                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:24                       ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-30 12:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-22 20:55 ` Linus Walleij
2009-09-23 13:00   ` Raistlin
2009-09-23 13:22   ` Claudio Scordino
2009-09-23 14:08     ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2009-09-23 14:45       ` Raistlin
2009-09-23 12:33 ` Linus Walleij
2009-09-23 12:50   ` Linus Walleij
2009-09-23 13:30   ` Raistlin
2009-09-29 18:15     ` roel kluin
2009-09-30 15:59       ` Raistlin
2009-09-24  0:34 ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-24  6:08   ` Raistlin
2009-09-24  9:11   ` Claudio Scordino

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