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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>, Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: tim.c.chen@intel.com, Xiongfeng Wang <wangxiongfeng2@huawei.com>,
	liaoyu15@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] x86/tsc: use logical_package as a better estimation of socket numbers
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:21:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63dca468-c94d-844a-5b19-09c03cf84911@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f27e4b3f858890c657df9a7d6f34dc2d60b89757.camel@intel.com>

On 10/21/22 08:00, Zhang Rui wrote:
> I checked the history of '__max_logical_packages', and realized that
> 
> 1. for topology_max_packages()/'__max_logical_packages', the divisor
>    'ncpus' uses cpu_data(0).booted_cores, which is based on the
>    *online* CPUs. So when using kernel cmdlines like maxcpus=/nr_cpus=,
>    '__max_logical_packages' can get over-estimated.
> 
> 2. for 'logical_packages', it equals the number of different physical
>    Package IDs for all *online* CPUs. So with kernel cmdlines like
>    nr_cpus=/maxcpus=, it can gets under-estimated.
> 
> BTW, I also checked CPUID.B/1F, which can tell a fixed number of CPUs
> within a package. But we don't have a fixed number of total CPUs from
> hardware.
> On my Dell laptop, BIOS allows me to disable/enable one or several
> cores. When this happens, the 'total_cpus' changes, but CPUID.B/1F does
> not change. So I don't think CPUID.B/1F can be used to optimize the '__
> max_logical_packages' calculation.
> 
> I'm not sure if we have a perfect solution here.

Are the implementations fixable?  Or, at least tolerable?

For instance, I can live with the implementation being a bit goofy when
kernel commandlines are in play.  We can pr_info() about those cases.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-21 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21  6:21 Feng Tang
2022-10-21  6:21 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] x86/tsc: Extend watchdog check exemption to 4-Sockets platform Feng Tang
2023-06-02 18:00   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-06-05  6:28     ` Feng Tang
2022-10-21 15:00 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] x86/tsc: use logical_package as a better estimation of socket numbers Zhang Rui
2022-10-21 16:21   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2022-10-22 16:12     ` Zhang Rui
2022-10-24 15:42       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-25  7:35         ` Feng Tang
2022-10-24  7:37     ` Feng Tang
2022-10-24 15:43       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-25  7:57         ` Feng Tang
2022-11-04  7:21           ` Feng Tang

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