From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0805FC43143 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 01:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9626B2073F for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 01:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=aaathats3as.com header.i=@aaathats3as.com header.b="086g44fd" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9626B2073F Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=aaathats3as.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727363AbeI2H1G (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 03:27:06 -0400 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:49148 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726325AbeI2H1G (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 03:27:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=aaathats3as.com; s=mail; t=1538182844; bh=Bnd9UVOl+tvS94WgK/OcX7fsx2wiKXJIyCgVy3dMVws=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=086g44fdUfhZuyPXRFDloaaRgO1uo1gXDo1uV+B/eEGJRuzDZbm7GegrbleUTgYtv AxTwEpsC683TiPp+dfr+OdKXzOurZf85UGWw5RGRrjZrwJI0ZfnTU5vKUXYJRRbVZD oxzaUZIJp7+nq4nlk/wCw0InfffCbf8+UrFYeHIJV+a+Cacdvqa7DtgZVu0vRXVke/ K38/TQvCIXIi+c0aLnyiAup8u4SmB7aspV0ZdChSOJY4B/RCwv3udokyQ0HY/U4qQB AmHKnpUV2GzDdTMTRXpib0ita1tzQebrY/c94WzjL/vM4vvkSxzeBzjR5/AjOorC8K B8IccjzM+ndhA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 01:00:44 +0000 From: freedomfromruin@aaathats3as.com To: freedomfromruin@aaathats3as.com Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Licenses and revocability, in a paragraph or less. In-Reply-To: <20180928035648.GA27803@thyrsus.com> References: <6ed65e31150937cad0733374eb8a9ef4@aaathats3as.com> <20180928035648.GA27803@thyrsus.com> Message-ID: <652e8c520f843e30577cde48e7895de1@aaathats3as.com> X-Sender: freedomfromruin@aaathats3as.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org It is imperative that the people know their rights so that they are not taken advantage of by moneyed interests. For those who are dispossessed there are remedies at law and in equity. Here we have a situation where moneyed interests have found a social exploit to leverage into ascendancy, while those who created the edifice which they have willed to conquer are shut out. On 2018-09-28 03:56, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > freedomfromruin@aaathats3as.com : >> As has been stated in easily accessible terms elsewhere: >> "Most courts hold that simple, non-exclusive licenses with unspecified >> durations that are silent on revocability are revocable at will. This >> means >> that the licensor may terminate the license at any time, with or >> without >> cause." + > > Furthermore, license revocation is not the only option. In Jacobsen > vs. Katzer (535 F.3d 1373 (Fed. Cir. 2008) it was found that > open-source developers have an actionable right not to have their > software misappropriated even though the resulting damages are only > reputational rather than monetary. > > Under that theory, developers can seek an injunction against a > misappropriating party without globally revoking their license. > The application of that case law to this situation is left as > an easy exercise for the reader. Any competent paralegal could > write the brief in an evening. Hell, I could almost do it myself. > > I do not personally want to see this happen. But that it is possible > is a fact all parties must deal with.