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From: "Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>
To: "Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: "Balbir Singh" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [-mm] Add an owner to the mm_struct (v9)]
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:34:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6599ad830804170934i6df9fe42kd979492babe03be@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080417113000.GB103@tv-sign.ru>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:30 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> wrote:
>  >
>  > I had this loop earlier (inspired from zap_threads()), is this loop more
>  > efficient than what we have?
>
>  All sub-threads have the same ->mm. Once we see that c->mm != mm, we don't
>  need to waste CPU iterating over the all other threads in the thread group.

Technically they don't have to have the same mm, right? You can use
CLONE_THREAD without CLONE_VM when creating a new subthread.

So the complete loop is required for correctness - but it might make
sense to include your version of the loop first, since that will be
faster whenever there are heavily-threaded apps on the system, and
will give the right answer 99.9% of the time (i.e. except when the
user is doing something really weird with clone flags).

>  chance you have the "for dummies" explanation what mm->owner is?
>  I mean, I can't understand how it is possible that 2 CLONE_VM tasks
>  are not equal wrt "ownering".

The idea is to be able to get from an mm to a task, where that task is
representative of the tasks using the mm. Uses include:

- virtual address space cgroup - when we extend an mm, we don't always
have a task pointer available currently.

- swap cgroup - when swapping from an mm, find a task whose swap
cgroup we can charge the swap page to

- revokeat() - apparently needs this for locating tasks based on file mappings

> When the old owner dies, we choose a
>  random thread with the same mm. But we do nothing when the last user
>  of ->mm dies. What is the point? (please feel free to ignore my q

When the last user of the mm dies, the mm is freed, so there's no need
for mm->owner to be valid any longer.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-17 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-14 14:13 Balbir Singh
2008-04-14 14:49 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-14 16:04   ` Paul Menage
2008-04-14 19:36     ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 21:06       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-15  0:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15 17:13   ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-15 18:13     ` Paul Menage
2008-04-15 19:59       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-17  3:38         ` Balbir Singh
2008-04-17 11:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-17 16:34             ` Paul Menage [this message]
2008-04-17 16:19               ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-17 17:40                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-04-17 17:08                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-17 17:50                   ` Paul Menage
2008-04-17 19:07                     ` Balbir Singh
2008-04-17 17:49                 ` Paul Menage

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