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From: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, x86@kernel.org,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	Naveen Rao <naveen.rao@amd.com>,
	David Kaplan <david.kaplan@amd.com>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] x86/bugs: Only log missing retpoline when it's actually the missing mitigation
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 09:51:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65d82937-113d-405b-9399-b70973e84c50@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260805004441.GAanKHecgJwfAOzZzp@fat_crate.local>

On 8/4/26 7:44 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 06:56:02PM -0500, Kim Phillips wrote:
>> spectre_v2_select_retpoline() unconditionally emits a pr_err when the
>> kernel lacks retpoline support before returning SPECTRE_V2_NONE to its
>> callers.
> 
> Unconditionally? There's an "if" there. :)

There's a "when" in there, too:

...unconditionally (emits a pr_err when the kernel lacks retpoline support) before...

So it's saying there are no additional conditions than
!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MITIGATION_RETPOLINE), when there should be
(which this patch adds).

>> A caller may then select an alternative mitigation, making the "no
>> mitigation available!" message alarming and misleading to administrators on
>> a system that is actually mitigated.
>>
>> Drop the pr_err from the helper and emit it once from
>> spectre_v2_update_mitigation().  Guard it on
>> !IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MITIGATION_RETPOLINE) so it only fires when retpoline
>> truly cannot be built in,
> 
> This is explaining the diff. Doesn't belong in the commit message.

Ok

>> and restrict it to the cases where retpoline
>> was the implied choice: SPECTRE_V2_CMD_FORCE, or SPECTRE_V2_CMD_AUTO
>> when should_mitigate_vuln(X86_BUG_SPECTRE_V2) indicates we actually
>> intended to mitigate.
> 
>> This avoids the spurious error on a
>> CONFIG_MITIGATION_RETPOLINE=n kernel where a caller of
>> spectre_v2_select_retpoline() selects an alternative mitigation, leaving
>> the system protected while the old message claimed otherwise.
> 
> This should be your first sentence. What the issue is.

I'll see about rewording the commit text according to this and all your
above comments in the next version.

> Which begs the question: why?
> 
> Why do we care about a CONFIG_MITIGATION_RETPOLINE=n kernel?
> 
> You either disable all mitigations or enable them all (distro kernel) and they
> get then configured at boot time. Why would I want to disable RETPOLINE only
> but leave spectre v2?
This patch corrects code that already cares about RETPOLINE=n kernels, but
it's also useful if you know all the target systems for a RETPOLINE=n config have
alternatives to RETPOLINE, such as {,e,Auto}IBRS.  This will become more and more
true as time goes by.

Thanks,

Kim


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-04 23:56 [PATCH v4 00/10] KVM: SEV: Add support for IBPB-on-Entry and BTB Isolation Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] x86/bugs: Only log missing retpoline when it's actually the missing mitigation Kim Phillips
2026-08-05  0:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-05 14:51     ` Kim Phillips [this message]
2026-08-05 22:49       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-06 20:12         ` Kim Phillips
2026-08-07  5:44           ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-10 23:21             ` Kim Phillips
2026-08-11  0:48               ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] cpu/bugs: Allow forcing Automatic IBRS with SNP active using spectre_v2=eibrs Kim Phillips
2026-08-18 23:22   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-26 22:52     ` Kim Phillips
2026-08-19  0:12   ` Pawan Gupta
2026-08-26 23:05     ` Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] cpu/bugs: Fall back to AutoIBRS when retpoline unavailable on SNP CPUs Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] cpu/bugs: Allow spectre_v2=ibrs on x86 vendors other than Intel Kim Phillips
2026-08-19  1:17   ` Pawan Gupta
2026-08-26 23:06     ` Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] KVM: SEV: Define SVM_SEV_FEAT_* flags using BIT_ULL() Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] KVM: selftests: sev_init2: Use BIT_ULL for VMSA feature bit definition Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] KVM: SEV: Disallow setting SNP-only features for non-SNP guests via a single mask Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] KVM: SEV: Advertise SVM_SEV_FEAT_SNP_ACTIVE Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] KVM: SEV: Add support for IBPB-on-Entry Kim Phillips
2026-08-04 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] KVM: SEV: Add support for SNP BTB Isolation Kim Phillips

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