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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Daniel Vetter' <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: 'Jani Nikula' <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	'Andrzej Hajda' <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Subject: RE: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/5] linux/minmax.h: add non-atomic version of xchg
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:41:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6617dfb150f94cbb9654a585843e3287@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y7ba8UlkhjpJI4F0@phenom.ffwll.local>

From: Daniel Vetter
> Sent: 05 January 2023 14:13
...
> > > So here we are, with Andrzej looking to add the common helper. And the
> > > same concerns crop up. What should it be called to make it clear that
> > > it's not atomic? Is that possible?
> >
> > old_value = read_write(variable, new_value);
> >
> > But two statements are much clearer.
> 
> Yeah this is my point for fetch_and_zero or any of the other proposals.
> We're essentially replacing these two lines:
> 
> 	var = some->pointer->chase;
> 	some->pointer->chase = NULL;
> 
> with a macro. C is verbose, and sometimes painfully so,

Try ADA or VHDL :-)

> if the pointer
> chase is really to onerous then I think that should be refactored with a
> meaningfully locally name variable, not fancy macros wrapped around to
> golf a few characters away.

Provided 'var' is a local the compiler is pretty likely to only do the
'pointer chase' once.
You can also do:
	var = NULL;
	swap(some->pointer->chase, var);
and get pretty much the same object code.

> But what about swap() you ask? That one needs a temp variable, and it does
> make sense to hide that in a ({}) block in a macro.

Sometimes, but not enough for the 'missed opportunity for swap()'
message. 

> But for the above two
> lines I really don't see a point outside of obfuscated C contexts.

Indeed.

Isn't the suggested __xchg() in one of the 'reserved for implementation'
namespaces - so shouldn't be a function that might be expected to be
actually used.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-05 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-09 15:48 Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-09 15:48 ` [PATCH 2/5] drm/i915/display: kill fetch_and_zero usage Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-09 15:48 ` [PATCH 3/5] drm/i915/gt: " Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-12  9:14   ` [Intel-gfx] " Upadhyay, Tejas
2022-12-12  9:23     ` Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-09 15:48 ` [PATCH 4/5] drm/i915/gvt: " Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-09 15:48 ` [PATCH 5/5] drm/i915: kill fetch_and_zero Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-09 17:16 ` [PATCH 1/5] linux/minmax.h: add non-atomic version of xchg Arnd Bergmann
2022-12-13  9:28   ` [Intel-gfx] " Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-13  9:35     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-12-09 18:56 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-09 18:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-13 10:09   ` [Intel-gfx] " Andrzej Hajda
2022-12-13 10:27     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-12  9:38 ` David Laight
2023-01-05 13:04   ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-05 13:28     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jani Nikula
2023-01-05 13:34       ` David Laight
2023-01-05 14:13         ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-05 14:41           ` David Laight [this message]
2023-01-05 14:57             ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-05 16:16               ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-05 14:13         ` Tvrtko Ursulin

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