From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
lkmm@lists.linux.dev, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
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Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
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Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>, Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
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Erik Lundgren <elundgren@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:47:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <665865d7-aa34-40a1-b985-7d6229d272b0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFwfUCw2izpjC0wr@Mac.home>
On 6/25/25 12:09 PM, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:52:04AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> [...]
>>> +/*
>>> + * Acquire a hazptr slot and begin the hazard pointer critical section.
>>> + *
>>> + * Must be called with preemption disabled, and preemption must remain disabled
>>> + * until shazptr_clear().
>>> + */
>>> +static inline struct shazptr_guard shazptr_acquire(void *ptr)
>>> +{
>>> + struct shazptr_guard guard = {
>>> + /* Preemption is disabled. */
>>> + .slot = this_cpu_ptr(&shazptr_slots),
>>> + .use_wildcard = false,
>>> + };
>>> +
>>> + if (likely(!READ_ONCE(*guard.slot))) {
>>> + WRITE_ONCE(*guard.slot, ptr);
>>> + } else {
>>> + guard.use_wildcard = true;
>>> + WRITE_ONCE(*guard.slot, SHAZPTR_WILDCARD);
>>> + }
>> Is it correct to assume that shazptr cannot be used in a mixed context
>> environment on the same CPU like a task context and an interrupt context
>> trying to acquire it simultaneously because the current check isn't atomic
>> with respect to that?
> I think the current implementation actually support mixed context usage,
> let see (assuming we start in a task context):
>
> if (likely(!READ_ONCE(*guard.slot))) {
>
> if an interrupt happens here, it's fine because the slot is still empty,
> as long as the interrupt will eventually clear the slot.
>
> WRITE_ONCE(*guard.slot, ptr);
>
> if an interrupt happens here, it's fine because the interrupt would
> notice that the slot is already occupied, hence the interrupt will use a
> wildcard, and because it uses a wild, it won't clear the slot after it
> returns. However the task context's shazptr_clear() will eventually
> clear the slot because its guard's .use_wildcard is false.
>
> } else {
>
> if an interrupt happens here, it's fine because of the same: interrupt
> will use wildcard, and it will not clear the slot, and some
> shazptr_clear() in the task context will eventually clear it.
>
> guard.use_wildcard = true;
> WRITE_ONCE(*guard.slot, SHAZPTR_WILDCARD);
>
> if an interrupt happens here, it's fine because of the same.
>
> }
>
>
> It's similar to why rcu_read_lock() can be just a non-atomic inc.
You are right.
>
>>> +
>>> + smp_mb(); /* Synchronize with smp_mb() at synchronize_shazptr(). */
>>> +
>>> + return guard;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static inline void shazptr_clear(struct shazptr_guard guard)
>>> +{
>>> + /* Only clear the slot when the outermost guard is released */
>>> + if (likely(!guard.use_wildcard))
>>> + smp_store_release(guard.slot, NULL); /* Pair with ACQUIRE at synchronize_shazptr() */
>>> +}
>> Is it better to name it shazptr_release() to be conformant with our current
>> locking convention?
>>
> Maybe, but I will need to think about slot reusing between
> shazptr_acquire() and shazptr_release(), in the general hazptr API,
> you can hazptr_alloc() a slot, use it and hazptr_clear() and then
> use it again, eventually hazptr_free(). I would like to keep both hazptr
> APIs consistent as well. Thanks!
Thanks for the explanation. Maybe we can reuse the general hazptr API
names (alloc/clear/free) even though shazptr_free() will be a no-op for
now. Just that the current acquire/clear naming looks odd to me.
Thanks,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 17:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-25 3:10 [PATCH 0/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers for lockdep Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 1/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 14:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-06-25 15:05 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 15:52 ` Waiman Long
2025-06-25 16:09 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 17:47 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 2/8] shazptr: Add refscale test Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 10:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 3/8] shazptr: Add refscale test for wildcard Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 10:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 4/8] shazptr: Avoid synchronize_shaptr() busy waiting Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 11:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-06-25 15:24 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 5/8] shazptr: Allow skip self scan in synchronize_shaptr() Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 6/8] rcuscale: Allow rcu_scale_ops::get_gp_seq to be NULL Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] rcuscale: Add tests for simple hazard pointers Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] locking/lockdep: Use shazptr to protect the key hashlist Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 14:18 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 14:06 ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-11 2:31 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 12:05 ` [PATCH 0/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers for lockdep Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 14:08 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 10:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-26 13:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-06-26 15:47 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-27 2:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-25 12:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-06-25 13:21 ` Boqun Feng
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