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From: "Dávid Bolvanský" <david.bolvansky@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Eli Friedman <efriedma@quicinc.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Daniel Axtens <dja@axtens.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Alexandru Ardelean <alexandru.ardelean@analog.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] lib/string.c: implement stpcpy
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 19:38:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <672236FE-769D-48F0-AAAD-FB9630BB2FA9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202008150921.B70721A359@keescook>

Yeah, sprintf calls should be replaced with something safer.

> Dňa 15. 8. 2020 o 18:34 užívateľ Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> napísal:
> 
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 07:09:44PM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
>> LLVM implemented a recent "libcall optimization" that lowers calls to
>> `sprintf(dest, "%s", str)` where the return value is used to
>> `stpcpy(dest, str) - dest`. This generally avoids the machinery involved
>> in parsing format strings.  Calling `sprintf` with overlapping arguments
>> was clarified in ISO C99 and POSIX.1-2001 to be undefined behavior.
>> 
>> `stpcpy` is just like `strcpy` except it returns the pointer to the new
>> tail of `dest`. This allows you to chain multiple calls to `stpcpy` in
>> one statement.
> 
> O_O What?
> 
> No; this is a _terrible_ API: there is no bounds checking, there are no
> buffer sizes. Anything using the example sprintf() pattern is _already_
> wrong and must be removed from the kernel. (Yes, I realize that the
> kernel is *filled* with this bad assumption that "I'll never write more
> than PAGE_SIZE bytes to this buffer", but that's both theoretically
> wrong ("640k is enough for anybody") and has been known to be wrong in
> practice too (e.g. when suddenly your writing routine is reachable by
> splice(2) and you may not have a PAGE_SIZE buffer).
> 
> But we cannot _add_ another dangerous string API. We're already in a
> terrible mess trying to remove strcpy[1], strlcpy[2], and strncpy[3]. This
> needs to be addressed up by removing the unbounded sprintf() uses. (And
> to do so without introducing bugs related to using snprintf() when
> scnprintf() is expected[4].)
> 
> -Kees
> 
> [1] https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/88
> [2] https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/89
> [3] https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/90
> [4] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200810092100.GA42813@2f5448a72a42/
> 
> -- 
> Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-15 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-15  0:24 [PATCH] " Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15  0:52 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-15  2:00   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15  0:53 ` Sami Tolvanen
2020-08-15  1:33 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-15  1:40   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-15  2:09     ` [PATCH v2] " Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15  2:58       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-15  3:42       ` Joe Perches
2020-08-15 16:34       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-15 17:38         ` Dávid Bolvanský [this message]
2020-08-15 20:47         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 21:23           ` Joe Perches
2020-08-15 21:27             ` Dávid Bolvanský
2020-08-15 21:28             ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 21:31               ` Joe Perches
2020-08-15 22:17                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-16  0:19                   ` Fangrui Song
2020-08-16  5:22                     ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-16 15:02                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-17 17:14                         ` Sami Tolvanen
2020-08-17 18:36                           ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-17 19:15                             ` Kees Cook
2020-08-17 20:13                             ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-17 21:45                               ` Nick Desaulniers
     [not found]                             ` <77557c29286140dea726cc334b4f59fc@AcuMS.aculab.com>
2020-08-18  8:32                               ` Joe Perches
2020-08-17 19:16                           ` Kees Cook
2020-08-15  2:00   ` [PATCH] " Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15 22:17 ` David Laight

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