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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] x86/devmem: remove low 1MB hack for x86-64
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 15:14:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <682e5029e88e0_1626e1008e@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250520152030.1499670-3-arnd@kernel.org>

[add Kees]

Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> 
> Traditionally, both reading and mapping anything in the low 1MB area is
> allowed on x86, through a series of ugly hacks.  In combination with
> features such as memory encryption, this keeps causing trouble and
> requires building additional hacks on top.
> 
> Chances are that this is only really used for 32-bit machines, as the
> usual users of this were dosemu, svgalib or ancient XFree86 versions,
> none of which should be used on 64-bit kernels any more.
> 
> Remove both the custom devmem_is_allowed() and the custom
> xlate_dev_mem_ptr() on 64-bit kernels, and use the normal implementation
> based on phys_to_virt() instead for read/write access on the linear
> map.
> 
> As a result, this makes x86-64 behave more like the other architecture
> on /dev/mem, allowing read/write access only on actual system RAM and
> only when CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM is disabled, while mmap() can be use
> on MMIO pages with the normal restrictions.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> ---
> Unlike the other two patches in this series, this one is expected to
> change the behavior on x86-64 kernels, which has the risk of
> regressions, but seems worthwhile to me.
> 
> Are there any reasons left for keeping these hacks?

Kees did this search which seems to suggest that there is still code out
there that may not be prepared for a behavior change here:

http://lore.kernel.org/202504101926.0F8FB73@keescook

Maybe those paths fallback to dmi sysfs or other mechanisms for digging through
BIOS data, but I do not think we can know for sure that this removal is
regression free ahead of time.

I would be interested to see though, so:

Acked-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-21 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-20 15:20 [PATCH 1/3] x86/devmem: move range_is_allowed() to drivers/char/mem.c Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-20 15:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/devmem: remove phys_mem_access_prot_allowed() Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-21 22:08   ` Dan Williams
2025-05-20 15:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] x86/devmem: remove low 1MB hack for x86-64 Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-21 22:14   ` Dan Williams [this message]
2025-05-22 12:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-06-03 18:18       ` Dan Williams
2025-06-03 19:25         ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-06-03 19:36           ` Dan Williams
2025-06-11 14:18             ` Naveen N Rao
2025-05-21 22:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/devmem: move range_is_allowed() to drivers/char/mem.c Dan Williams

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