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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@linux.microsoft.com>,
	stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com, sashal@kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/4] LSM: Measure security module data
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:03:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69810007161e689ac817099fb1c6df21962963e4.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200805154504.GB4365@sequoia>

On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 10:45 -0500, Tyler Hicks wrote:

> In addition to SELINUX_STATE and SELINUX_POLICY, we should also consider
> the proposed LSM_STATE and LSM_POLICY func values but require an "lsm"
> rule conditional.
> 
> So the current proposed rules:
> 
>  measure func=LSM_STATE
>  measure func=LSM_POLICY
> 
> Would become:
> 
>  measure func=LSM_STATE lsm=selinux
>  measure func=LSM_POLICY lsm=selinux
> 
> The following rules would be rejected:
> 
>  measure func=LSM_STATE
>  measure func=LSM_POLICY
>  measure func=LSM_STATE lsm=apparmor
>  measure func=LSM_POLICY lsm=smack

Kees is cleaning up the firmware code which differentiated between how
firmware was loaded.   There will be a single firmware enumeration.

Similarly, the new IMA hook to measure critical state may be placed in
multiple places.  Is there really a need from a policy perspective for
differentiating the source of the critical state being measurind?   The
data being measured should include some identifying information.

I think moving away from the idea that measuring "critical" data should
be limited to LSMs, will clarify this.

Mimi


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-05 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-05  0:43 Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05  0:43 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] IMA: Add func to measure LSM state and policy Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05  3:25   ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-05 12:46     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-05 12:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-05 13:03         ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-05 13:19           ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-05 14:27             ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-05 15:07               ` Tyler Hicks
2020-08-05 15:43                 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-05 16:45                   ` John Johansen
2020-08-05 15:17               ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-05  0:43 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] IMA: Define IMA hooks " Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05  0:43 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] LSM: Define SELinux function to measure " Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05  0:43 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] IMA: Handle early boot data measurement Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05  1:04 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] LSM: Measure security module data Casey Schaufler
2020-08-05  1:14   ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05 15:36     ` Casey Schaufler
2020-08-05 15:45       ` Tyler Hicks
2020-08-05 16:07         ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05 16:14           ` Tyler Hicks
2020-08-05 16:21             ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05 16:32               ` Tyler Hicks
2020-08-05 17:31                 ` Casey Schaufler
2020-08-05 17:03         ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2020-08-05 17:25           ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05 17:57             ` Casey Schaufler
2020-08-05 18:08               ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05 18:25                 ` Casey Schaufler
2020-08-12 20:37                   ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-05 12:37   ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-05 12:00 ` Mimi Zohar

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