From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev>
To: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>
Cc: vkoul@kernel.org, yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com,
peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
patches@opensource.cirrus.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] soundwire: intel_auxdevice: Don't disable IRQs before removing children
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 20:31:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b7370d9-f913-42ab-9331-9614d149b7ec@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aruxv3Gy0yj5YzV1@opensource.cirrus.com>
On 9/29/26 14:40, Charles Keepax wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 10:34:16AM +0200, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>> On 9/28/26 10:39, Charles Keepax wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2026 at 05:55:06PM +0200, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>>> void sdw_bus_master_delete(struct sdw_bus *bus)
>>>> {
>>>> - device_for_each_child(bus->dev, NULL, sdw_delete_slave);
>>>> + sdw_bus_slaves_delete(bus); <<< this would be the second call?
>>>> + sdw_bus_slaves_put(bus);
>>>
>>> Yeah seemed the simplest way to not have to change any existing
>>> drivers, the second call is a complete no-op if the first was
>>> done.
>>
>> humm, that seems to work but I get this layering violation after-taste,
>> and I wonder if this works for AMD?
>
> Nothing should have changed from AMD's perspective. I do think
> perhaps a slightly better fix could be done moving significant
> amounts of the IRQ handling over to the IRQ framework,
> however that is a much bigger piece of work and more scary
> from a regressions point of view due to it being a much bigger
> refactoring.
>
>> AMD use a platform device instead of an auxiliary one, but overall this
>> looks like the same problem of disabling interrupts before the
>> peripheral driver is removed, no?
>>
>> static void amd_sdw_manager_remove(struct platform_device *pdev)
>> {
>> struct amd_sdw_manager *amd_manager = dev_get_drvdata(&pdev->dev);
>> int ret;
>>
>> pm_runtime_disable(&pdev->dev);
>> cancel_work_sync(&amd_manager->amd_sdw_work);
>> amd_disable_sdw_interrupts(amd_manager); <<< SAME PROBLEM ??
>> sdw_bus_master_delete(&amd_manager->bus);
>>
>> If this is indeed the same problem then the AMD driver should use the
>> same solution...
>
> I am not super familiar with the AMD stuff, so take this with a
> massive pinch of salt but it depends on if that IRQ is actually
> involved in SoundWire command transfers.
>
> A quick look through amd_sdw_irq_thread() and amd_sdw_xfer_msg()
> looks to me like the IRQ is not involved there. So I believe
> the AMD host doesn't have the same problem as the Intel one.
> Although there is perhaps debate if SoundWire alerts should
> still function during remove, which would be broken on AMD,
> but I am not aware of any devices that need that right now.
I think you're right, the AMD messenging relies on polling, not on
interrupts, so they are 'safe'. I don't see anything that would prevent
communication with the peripheral.
For the alerts, I guess it's the same on remove, clock stop and system
suspend. When the manager made the decision to remove/stop the
clock/power-down, the transition has to happen. Alerts can only be
handled 'later'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-29 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-25 15:42 [PATCH v2 0/3] Allow SoundWire devices to communicate during remove Charles Keepax
2026-09-25 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] soundwire: bus: Don't unassign dev_num before unregistering device Charles Keepax
2026-09-25 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] soundwire: bus: Expose a helper to remove devices from the bus Charles Keepax
2026-09-25 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] soundwire: intel_auxdevice: Don't disable IRQs before removing children Charles Keepax
2026-09-26 15:55 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2026-09-28 8:39 ` Charles Keepax
2026-09-29 8:34 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2026-09-29 12:40 ` Charles Keepax
2026-09-29 18:31 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2026-09-29 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Allow SoundWire devices to communicate during remove Pierre-Louis Bossart
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