From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Bill Wendling' <morbo@google.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
"llvm@lists.linux.dev" <llvm@lists.linux.dev>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v4] x86: use builtins to read eflags
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 22:09:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b83fa302b974f749c60fc6c456e055f@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGG=3QXvSt=d94iqSV-Y9JVNc+pt-WOZGpSeW--fp=w2ttMvUA@mail.gmail.com>
From: Bill Wendling > Sent: 11 February 2022 19:26
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 8:40 AM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> > From: Bill Wendling
> > > Sent: 10 February 2022 22:32
> > >
> > > GCC and Clang both have builtins to read and write the EFLAGS register.
> > > This allows the compiler to determine the best way to generate this
> > > code, which can improve code generation.
> > >
> > > This issue arose due to Clang's issue with the "=rm" constraint. Clang
> > > chooses to be conservative in these situations, and so uses memory
> > > instead of registers. This is a known issue, which is currently being
> > > addressed.
> > >
> > > However, using builtins is beneficial in general, because it removes the
> > > burden of determining what's the way to read the flags register from the
> > > programmer and places it on to the compiler, which has the information
> > > needed to make that decision.
> >
> > Except that neither gcc nor clang attempt to make that decision.
> > They always do pushf; pop ax;
> >
> It looks like both GCC and Clang pop into virtual registers. The
> register allocator is then able to determine if it can allocate a
> physical register or if a stack slot is required.
Doing:
int fl;
void f(void) { fl = __builtin_ia32_readeflags_u64(); }
Seems to use register.
If it pops to a virtual register it will probably never pop
into a real target location.
See https://godbolt.org/z/8aY8o8rhe
But performance wise the pop+mov is just one byte longer.
Instruction decode time might be higher for two instruction, but since
'pop mem' generates 2 uops (intel) it may be constrained to the first
decoder (I can't rememberthe exact details), but the separate pop+mov
can be decoded in parallel - so could end up faster.
Actual execution time (if that makes any sense) is really the same.
Two operations, one pop and one memory write.
I bet you'd be hard pressed to find a piece of code where it even made
a consistent difference.
> > ...
> > > v4: - Clang now no longer generates stack frames when using these builtins.
> > > - Corrected misspellings.
> >
> > While clang 'head' has been fixed, it seems a bit premature to say
> > it is 'fixed' enough for all clang builds to use the builtin.
> >
> True, but it's been cherry-picked into the clang 14.0.0 branch, which
> is scheduled for release in March.
>
> > Seems better to change it (back) to "=r" and comment that this
> > is currently as good as __builtin_ia32_readeflags_u64() and that
> > clang makes a 'pigs breakfast' of "=rm" - which has only marginal
> > benefit.
> >
> That would be okay as far as code generation is concerned, but it does
> place the burden of correctness back on the programmer. Also, it was
> that at some point, but was changed to "=rm" here. :-)
As I said, a comment should stop the bounce.
...
> I was able to come up with an example where GCC generates "pushf ; pop mem":
>
> https://godbolt.org/z/9rocjdoaK
>
> (Clang generates a variation of "pop mem," and is horrible code, but
> it's meant for demonstration purposes only.) One interesting thing
> about the use of the builtins is that if at all possible, the "pop"
> instruction may be moved away from the "pushf" if it's safe and would
> reduce register pressure.
I wouldn't trust the compiler to get stack pointer relative accesses
right if it does move them apart.
Definitely scope for horrid bugs ;-)
David
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[not found] ` <87mtl1l63m.ffs@tglx>
2021-12-16 19:55 ` [PATCH] " Bill Wendling
2021-12-17 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-17 19:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-14 23:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-15 0:08 ` Bill Wendling
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2021-12-16 20:00 ` Bill Wendling
2021-12-16 20:07 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-12-29 2:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Bill Wendling
2022-01-27 20:56 ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-04 0:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-02-04 0:58 ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-04 0:57 ` [PATCH v3] " Bill Wendling
2022-02-07 22:11 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-08 9:14 ` David Laight
2022-02-08 23:18 ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-14 23:53 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-10 22:31 ` [PATCH v4] " Bill Wendling
2022-02-11 16:40 ` David Laight
2022-02-11 19:25 ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-11 22:09 ` David Laight [this message]
2022-02-11 23:33 ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-12 0:24 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-12 9:23 ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-15 0:33 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-03-01 20:19 ` [PATCH v5] " Bill Wendling
2022-03-14 23:07 ` Bill Wendling
[not found] ` <AC3D873E-A28B-41F1-8BF4-2F6F37BCEEB4@zytor.com>
2022-03-15 7:19 ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 15:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-17 18:00 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-03-17 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 19:45 ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:10 ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 21:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:45 ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 23:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 23:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 0:05 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 22:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 20:13 ` Florian Weimer
2022-03-17 20:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 0:25 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18 1:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:05 ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-17 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 17:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-18 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 21:48 ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-18 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 23:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-19 1:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-19 23:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-18 22:09 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18 22:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 22:36 ` David Laight
2022-03-18 22:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 22:43 ` David Laight
2022-03-18 23:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 23:04 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18 23:52 ` David Laight
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