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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Liam Mitchell <mitchell.liam@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] usbhid: tolerate intermittent errors
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 17:52:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6cbc6c70-8252-43d0-8701-e1613ddc769f@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260307-usbhid-eproto-v2-1-e5a8abce4652@gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 07, 2026 at 07:57:09PM +0100, Liam Mitchell wrote:
> Modifies usbhid error handling to tolerate intermittent protocol
> errors, avoiding URB resubmission delay and device reset.
> 
> ---
> Protocol errors like EPROTO can occur randomly, sometimes frequently and are often not fixed by a device reset.
> 
> The current error handling will only resubmit the URB after at least 13ms delay and may reset the USB device if another error occurs 1-1.5s later, regardless of error type or count.
> 
> These delays and device resets increase the chance that input events will be missed and that users see symptoms like missed or sticky keyboard keys.
> 
> This patch allows one protocol error per 500ms to be tolerated and have the URB re-submitted immediately.
> 
> 500ms was chosen to be well above the error rate of a malfunctioning
> device but low enough to be useful for users with devices noisier than
> mine.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Liam Mitchell <mitchell.liam@gmail.com>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-input/CAOQ1CL6Q+4GNy=kgisLzs0UBXFT3b02PG8t-0rPuW-Wf6NhQ6g@mail.gmail.com/
> ---

Liam, take a look at

	https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221184

On Roman's system, these protocol errors occur fairly regularly, 
apparently caused by high system load.

Do you think a better approach might be to reduce the 13-ms delay to 
just 1 or 2 ms, and perform a reset only there has been no successful 
communication for about one second?  This might perhaps be _too_ lenient 
sometimes, but I don't think such situations will arise in practice.

The reason for having at least a small delay is to avoid getting into a 
tight resubmit/error loop in cases where the device has been unplugged.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-07 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-07 18:57 Liam Mitchell
2026-03-07 22:52 ` Alan Stern [this message]
2026-03-08 13:48   ` Liam Mitchell
2026-03-08 15:19     ` Alan Stern

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