From: Shoaib Rao <rao.shoaib@oracle.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
andy.rudoff@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] af_unix: Allow Unix sockets to raise SIGURG
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:54:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6cef3799-088c-b017-94cb-18971ac74727@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210129191939.GB308988@casper.infradead.org>
On 1/29/21 11:19 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 09:56:48AM -0800, Shoaib Rao wrote:
>> On 1/25/21 3:36 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 15:06:37 +0000 Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
>>>> From: Rao Shoaib <rao.shoaib@oracle.com>
>>>>
>>>> TCP sockets allow SIGURG to be sent to the process holding the other
>>>> end of the socket. Extend Unix sockets to have the same ability.
>>>>
>>>> The API is the same in that the sender uses sendmsg() with MSG_OOB to
>>>> raise SIGURG. Unix sockets behave in the same way as TCP sockets with
>>>> SO_OOBINLINE set.
>>> Noob question, if we only want to support the inline mode, why don't we
>>> require SO_OOBINLINE to have been called on @other? Wouldn't that
>>> provide more consistent behavior across address families?
>>>
>>> With the current implementation the receiver will also not see MSG_OOB
>>> set in msg->msg_flags, right?
>> SO_OOBINLINE does not control the delivery of signal, It controls how
>> OOB Byte is delivered. It may not be obvious but this change does not
>> deliver any Byte, just a signal. So, as long as sendmsg flag contains
>> MSG_OOB, signal will be delivered just like it happens for TCP.
> I don't think that's the question Jakub is asking. As I understand it,
> if you send a MSG_OOB on a TCP socket and the receiver calls recvmsg(),
> it will see MSG_OOB set, even if SO_OOBINLINE is set.
No it wont. Application just gets a signal.
> That wouldn't
> happen with Unix sockets. I'm OK with that difference in behaviour,
> because MSG_OOB on Unix sockets _is not_ for sending out of band data.
> It's just for sending an urgent signal.
That is what I just explained in my email
>
> As you say, MSG_OOB does not require data to be sent for unix sockets
> (unlike TCP which always requires at least one byte), but one can
> choose to send data as part of a message which has MSG_OOB set. It
> won't be tagged in any special way.
>
> To Jakub's other question, we could require SO_OOBINLINE to be set.
> That'd provide another layer of insurance against applications being
> surprised by a SIGURG they weren't expecting. I don't know that it's
> really worth it though.
SO_OOBINLINE has a meaning, that the urgent byte is part of the stream and using SO_OOBLINE to allow signalling would be wrong/confusing. We could add a socket option on the receiver to indicate if it supports or wants the signal.
>
> One thing I wasn't clear about, and maybe you know, if we send a MSG_OOB,
> does this patch cause this part of the tcp(7) manpage to be true for
> unix sockets too?
>
> When out-of-band data is present, select(2) indicates the file descrip‐
> tor as having an exceptional condition and poll (2) indicates a POLLPRI
> event.
No because there is no data involved. Poll is associated with data not
signals.
Shoaib
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-29 20:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-22 15:06 Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-01-25 23:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-29 17:56 ` Shoaib Rao
2021-01-29 19:06 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-29 19:48 ` Shoaib Rao
2021-01-29 20:02 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-29 20:10 ` Shoaib Rao
2021-01-29 20:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-29 20:44 ` Shoaib Rao
2021-01-29 20:49 ` Shoaib Rao
2021-01-29 21:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-29 21:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-29 23:47 ` David Laight
2021-01-29 21:54 ` Shoaib Rao
2021-01-29 19:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-29 19:54 ` Shoaib Rao [this message]
2021-01-29 20:01 ` Shoaib Rao
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