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From: Aubrey <aubreylee@gmail.com>
To: "David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mpm@selenic.com,
	davidm@snapgear.com, gerg@snapgear.com
Subject: Re: kernel BUGs when removing largish files with the SLOB allocator
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:35:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50609051935m607f976j942263dd1ac9c4fb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3551.1157448903@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com>

Yeah, I agree with most of your opinion. Using PG_slab is really a
quickest way to determine the size of the object. But I think using a
flag named "PG_slab" on a memory algorithm named "slob" seems not
reasonable. It may confuse the people who start to read the kernel
source code. So I'm writing to ask if there is a better solution to
fix the issue.

-Aubrey

On 9/5/06, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
> Aubrey <aubreylee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > IMHO the problem is nommu.c is written for slab only. So when slob is
> > enabled, it need to be considered to make some modification to make
> > two or more memory allocator algorithms work properly, rather than to
> > force all others algorithm to be compatible with the current one(slab)
> > to match the code in the nommu.c, which is not common enough.
> >
> > Does that make sense?
>
> No, not really.
>
> The point is that kobjsize() needs to determine the size of the object it has
> been asked to assess.  It knows how to do that directly if the page is
> allocated by the main page allocator, but not if the page belongs to the slab
> allocator.  The quickest way it can determine this is to look at PG_slab.  In
> such a case it defers to the slab allocator for a determination.
>
> What I don't want to happen is that we have to defer immediately to the slob
> allocator which then goes and searches various lists to see if it owns the
> page.  Remember: unless the page is _marked_ as belonging to the slob
> allocator, the slob allocator may _not_ assume any of the metadata in struct
> page is valid slob metadata.  It _has_ to determine the validity of the page
> by other means _before_ it can use the metadata, and that most likely means a
> search.  This is why PG_slab exists: if it is set, you _know_ you can
> instantly trust the metadata.
>
> Since slob appears to be an entry-point-by-entry-point replacement for the
> slab allocator, the slob allocator can also mark its pages for anything that's
> looking to defer to it using PG_slab since the presence of slab and slob are
> mutually exclusive.
>
> Also, we already have two major memory allocator algorithms in the kernel at
> any one time: (1) the main page allocator and (2) slab or slob.  We don't
> really want to start going to three or more.
>
>
> So, I come back to the main question: Why don't you want to use PG_slab?
>
> David
>

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-06  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-04  6:56 Aubrey
2006-09-04 10:21 ` David Howells
2006-09-05  3:52   ` Aubrey
2006-09-05  9:35   ` David Howells
2006-09-06  2:35     ` Aubrey [this message]
2006-09-06  3:36       ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-12  8:07         ` Aubrey
2006-09-12 17:43           ` Matt Mackall
2006-09-12 19:10           ` David Howells
2006-09-12 20:51             ` Matt Mackall
2006-09-12 20:56             ` David Howells
2006-09-12 21:04               ` Matt Mackall
2006-09-12 21:59               ` David Howells
2006-09-13 19:39                 ` Matt Mackall
2006-09-13  2:16             ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-13  7:21               ` Aubrey
2006-09-12 19:25           ` David Howells
2006-09-12 20:28             ` Matt Mackall
2006-09-12 20:49             ` Matt Mackall
2006-09-12 21:02             ` David Howells
2006-09-12 21:15               ` Matt Mackall
2006-09-12  8:54         ` David Howells
2006-09-12 10:53           ` Aubrey

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