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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Will Whang <will@willwhang.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: media: Add Sony IMX585 CMOS image sensor
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 08:00:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d6dc9e6-751f-4079-b21e-2e3461885b03@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFoNnrzWot_Bf=YZFac1GkZgOOnJycwpidvwL93p3p-C-zn8BA@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/08/2025 06:30, Will Whang wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 2:56 AM Laurent Pinchart
> <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 08:47:12AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 12/08/2025 08:31, Will Whang wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 11:23 PM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/08/2025 04:47, Will Whang wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 1:01 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 11:09:18PM +0100, Will Whang wrote:
>>>>>>>> +description:
>>>>>>>> +  IMX585 sensor is a Sony CMOS sensor with 4K and FHD outputs.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +properties:
>>>>>>>> +  compatible:
>>>>>>>> +    enum:
>>>>>>>> +      - sony,imx585
>>>>>>>> +      - sony,imx585-mono
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't understand this second compatible. Is this different hardware?
>>>>>>> Can you point me to "mono" datasheet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your description should explain this. Commit msg as well, instead of
>>>>>>> speaking about driver (in fact drop all driver related comments).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mono version of this sensor is basically just removing the bayer
>>>>>> filter, so the sensor itself actually doesn't know if it is color or
>>>>>> mono and from my knowledge there are no registers programmed in the
>>>>>> factory that will show the variant and model number. (That is why when
>>>>>> the driver probing it only test blacklevel register because there are
>>>>>> no ID registers)
>>>>>> Originally in V1 patch I've made the switch between color and mono in
>>>>>> dtoverlay config but reviewer comments is to move it to compatible
>>>>>> string and not property.(https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20250703175121.GA17709@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/)
>>>>>
>>>>> You only partially answer and judging by mentioning driver below:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, what would you recommend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> compatible:
>>>>>>   enum:
>>>>>>     - sony,imx585
>>>>>>     - sony,imx585-mono
>>>>>>   description: IMX585 has two variants, color and mono which the
>>>>>> driver supports both.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... I still have doubts that you really understand what I am asking. Is
>>>>> this one device or two different devices?
>>>>
>>>> One device that has two variants: IMX585-AAMJ1 (Mono) and IMX585-AAQJ1
>>>> (Color). Silicon-wise the difference is just with or without bayer
>>>> filter.
>>>
>>> Then I would propose to use sony,imx585-aamj1 and -aaqj1 with short
>>> explanation either in comment or description about difference in RGB
>>> mosaic filter.
>>
>> Works for me. We could possibly omit the "j1" suffix too.
>>
> My thinking is that imx585 and imx585-mono are easier to comprehend
> than IMX585-AAM and IMX585-AAQ.
> Because in dtoverlay for the users/me they will have to know what is
> the exact name instead of easy to remember name.
> 
> dtoverlay=imx585-aam
> is not as nice as
> dtoverlay=imx585-mono

I have datasheet for AAQ, so how above is easier for me to figure out
which compatible I am using?

> 
> which is what it does, a mono variant of the sensor.
> 
> I really don't understand the standard for compatible string naming
> here, is there something I missed? Is it required to use the full name
> of the sensor parts number as a compatible string?

It's not part number. You have there different models. We don't add
prose to compatibles, but use device or model names.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-13  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-10 22:09 [PATCH v2 0/4] media: Add Sony IMX585 image sensor support Will Whang
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: media: Add Sony IMX585 CMOS image sensor Will Whang
2025-08-11  8:00   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-12  2:47     ` Will Whang
2025-08-12  6:23       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-12  6:31         ` Will Whang
2025-08-12  6:47           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-12  9:55             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-13  4:30               ` Will Whang
2025-08-13  6:00                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-08-13  6:38                   ` Will Whang
2025-08-13  7:34                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] media: uapi: Add custom IMX585 control IDs Will Whang
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] media: i2c: imx585: Add Sony IMX585 image-sensor driver Will Whang
2025-08-11  8:05   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-11  8:06   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-16 19:44     ` Will Whang
2025-08-17  6:13       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] media: docs: Add userspace-API guide for the IMX585 driver Will Whang
2025-08-11 14:17   ` Dave Stevenson
2025-08-12  2:31     ` Will Whang
2025-08-12 11:28       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-13  4:20         ` Will Whang

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