From: Feng Jiang <jiangfeng@kylinos.cn>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
Cc: pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu,
alex@ghiti.fr, kees@kernel.org, andy@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, ebiggers@kernel.org,
martin.petersen@oracle.com, ardb@kernel.org,
ajones@ventanamicro.com, conor.dooley@microchip.com,
samuel.holland@sifive.com, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
nathan@kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strlen()
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 16:05:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6db87d0e-bfb2-4d8e-88a8-a727f96aa2d5@kylinos.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWdD3N_jwnt_ncc1@smile.fi.intel.com>
On 2026/1/14 15:21, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 03:04:58PM +0800, Feng Jiang wrote:
>> On 2026/1/14 14:14, Feng Jiang wrote:
>>> On 2026/1/13 16:46, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>> Thank you for the catch. You are absolutely correct—the 2500x figure is heavily
>>> distorted and does not reflect real-world performance.
>>>
>>> I've found that by using a volatile function pointer to call the implementations
>>> (instead of direct calls), the results returned to a realistic range. It appears
>>> the previous benchmark logic allowed the compiler to over-optimize the test loop
>>> in ways that skewed the data.
>>>
>>> I will refactor the benchmark logic in v3, specifically referencing the crc32
>>> KUnit implementation (e.g., using warm-up loops and adding preempt_disable()
>>> to eliminate context-switch interference) to ensure the data is robust and accurate.
>>>
>>
>> Just a quick follow-up: I've also verified that using a volatile variable to store
>> the return value (as seen in crc_benchmark()) is equally effective at preventing
>> the optimization.
>>
>> The core change is as follows:
>>
>> volatile size_t len;
>> ...
>> for (unsigned int j = 0; j < iters; j++) {
>> OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR(buf);
>> len = strlen(buf);
>
> But please, check for sure this is Linux kernel generic implementation (before)
> and not __builtin_strlen() from GCC. (OTOH, it would be nice to benchmark that
> one as well, although I think that __builtin_strlen() in general maybe slightly
> better choice than Linux kernel generic implementation.) I.o.w. be sure *what*
> you test.
>
Thanks for the reminder. I actually verified this with objdump and gdb before
submitting the patch—the calls are indeed hitting the intended arch-specific
strlen symbols, not the compiler's __builtin_strlen(). I missed mentioning this
detail in my previous email.
I also just performed an additional test by explicitly calling the exported
arch-specific __pi_strlen() symbol, and the results remained consistent.
Results with riscv __pi_strlen():
ok 4 string_test_strlen
# string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (short, len: 8, iters: 100000):
# string_test_strlen_bench: arch-optimized: 4650500 ns
# string_test_strlen_bench: generic C: 5776000 ns
# string_test_strlen_bench: speedup: 1.24x
# string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (medium, len: 64, iters: 100000):
# string_test_strlen_bench: arch-optimized: 6895000 ns
# string_test_strlen_bench: generic C: 16343400 ns
# string_test_strlen_bench: speedup: 2.37x
# string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (long, len: 2048, iters: 10000):
# string_test_strlen_bench: arch-optimized: 8052800 ns
# string_test_strlen_bench: generic C: 35290700 ns
# string_test_strlen_bench: speedup: 4.38x
ok 5 string_test_strlen_bench
>> }
>
> Or using WRITE_ONCE() :-) But that one will probably be confusing as it usually
> should be paired with READ_ONCE() somewhere else in the code. So, I agree on
> crc_benchmark() approach taken.
>
Thanks for the guidance. I'll stick with the crc_benchmark() pattern to avoid any
potential confusion regarding concurrency that WRITE_ONCE() might imply.
I'm still learning the most idiomatic practices in the kernel, so I appreciate the tip.
>> Preliminary results with this change look much more reasonable:
>>
>> ok 4 string_test_strlen
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (short, len: 8, iters: 100000):
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: arch-optimized: 4767500 ns
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: generic C: 5815800 ns
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: speedup: 1.21x
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (medium, len: 64, iters: 100000):
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: arch-optimized: 6573600 ns
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: generic C: 16342500 ns
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: speedup: 2.48x
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (long, len: 2048, iters: 10000):
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: arch-optimized: 7931000 ns
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: generic C: 35347300 ns
>> # string_test_strlen_bench: speedup: 4.45x
>> ok 5 string_test_strlen_bench
>>
>> I will adopt this pattern in v3, along with cache warm-up and preempt_disable(),
>> to stay consistent with existing kernel benchmarks and ensure robust measurements.
>
--
With Best Regards,
Feng Jiang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-14 8:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-13 8:27 [PATCH v2 00/14] riscv: optimize string functions and add kunit tests Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] lib/string: extract generic strlen() into __generic_strlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14 0:01 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-14 1:41 ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14 7:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14 10:10 ` David Laight
2026-01-15 6:50 ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-15 6:55 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] lib/string: extract generic strnlen() into __generic_strnlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] lib/string: extract generic strchr() into __generic_strchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] lib/string: extract generic strrchr() into __generic_strrchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] lib/string_kunit: add correctness test for strlen Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] lib/string_kunit: add correctness test for strnlen Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] lib/string_kunit: add correctness test for strrchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14 6:14 ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14 7:04 ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14 7:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14 8:05 ` Feng Jiang [this message]
2026-01-14 10:21 ` David Laight
2026-01-15 6:24 ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-15 10:40 ` David Laight
2026-01-18 11:11 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strnlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strrchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] riscv: lib: add strnlen implementation Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:48 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] riscv: lib: add strchr implementation Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] riscv: lib: add strrchr implementation Feng Jiang
2026-01-13 8:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] riscv: optimize string functions and add kunit tests Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-15 4:43 ` Joel Stanley
2026-01-19 9:24 ` Feng Jiang
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