From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA908C43387 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2019 23:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB372171F for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2019 23:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key) header.d=memeware.net header.i=@memeware.net header.b="uGeBrtTX" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727137AbfAAXyn (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jan 2019 18:54:43 -0500 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:38004 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725941AbfAAXyn (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jan 2019 18:54:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=memeware.net; s=mail; t=1546386879; bh=d56wwHktAU3adbGU2BL59AiKOkdd8h+ElDehIbayEVU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:From; b=uGeBrtTXF5kLXUstc55Fy9Dg7O72mvXMaELHYsUCjSO6cfurLzOaKRARoCEAX1oxe Wzi2YPce7Mh2fagglykOVKsvQBgEzInAxDItKAk1PMKc5x9L5ZFZv/LhakQLLIqfbo Qgm6wHF1WxPTPZ7DXnBwUJxONSXriToX9sg691viUNU9CFIOBrHhV3a/NoHkWhBsF0 itpCix7piSmmpUTcdUgR9FeMz4tfaoUBDjJ0FkZp9cWueV1MqWHDxEiQKaPv+5EmRg yaKX8q/uhtebqkoan5xdGyNauECJ7HkdyZrxOytVtMIFoVNwDc5qUEvV225JE6IR5s ud0B1DRT/QzRw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2019 23:54:37 +0000 From: vsnsdualce@memeware.net To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: freebsd-women@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org Subject: An attached interest is essential to argue that rescission is improper: you must have paid the owner for such an attached interest. Message-ID: <6f28a50614a73a0798bef64354b2cf71@memeware.net> X-Sender: vsnsdualce@memeware.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> 1015331 > You cannot revoke the GPL license, having no attached interest is > meaningless. It is not meaningless, it is essential. For you to have an attached interest, you must secure it. And you must secure it from the property owner. > The GPL is a commercial distribution license. It is not. Nothing was payed to many 1000s of property owners for them to forgo their default rights, nor did they disclaim them in the license, nor were they paid for said non-existent disclaimers. > People are allowed to distribute GPL software and they are allowed to > make a big profit by doing this. Until the license is revoked. All your "rights" stem from the choice of the property owner to alienate his property as he sees fit. Here he has chosen to alienate his property very little: he has simply granted a license (not a transfer). He may revoke this grant at his leasure since it is not secured by an interest. You paid nothing to Owner. Owner gave nothing to you. He is simply allowing you to temporarily use his property. He can end this permission when he wishes. You then must prove that you paid him to not use this property right of his, and that he gave to you (in return for this payment in money, performance, goods) a promise to forgo this right of his. You cannot show that. You have no right to prevent him from recovering his property. In this case the code. He can say: nope, you cannot use it any-longer in new editions of this software. Then the burden is on you to show the court where he sold you some right that runs counter to his default rights in his own property. He never did so, so you have nothing to show. > >>1015264 > >Without an attached interest you can very well revoke the license and prevent all further distribution of your code, and further use of it in future versions. > > You cannot revoke the GPL license, having no attached interest is > meaningless. The GPL is a commercial distribution license. People are > allowed to distribute GPL software and they are allowed to make a big > profit by doing this.