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From: Daniel <daniel@zonque.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: intel: Drop pxa2xx
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 09:21:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <700e5050-aebe-4ca4-b02d-8ffacccf7045@zonque.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35405ed3-1319-4d3a-84a5-ad67f4c823ad@app.fastmail.com>

Hi,

On 12/17/25 17:04, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2025, at 22:58, Robert Jarzmik wrote:
>> "Rob Herring (Arm)" <robh@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>>> These .dtsi files are not included anywhere in the tree and 
>>> can't be tested. They have not been touched since 2018 other than 
>>> clean-ups.
>>>
>> And yet, there are used by people using pxa2xx board with an DT 
>> support (like the mioa701 for which a board file was never merged).
>>
>> If you remove pxa25x.dtsi and pxa27x.dtsi, you might as well 
>> remove all support for this architecture from the kernel, as
>> these are the building blocks needed to make it work.
>>
>> That might be what should be done, I'll let Arnd and Daniel 
>> comment on the future of PXA in the kernel.
> 
> I agree with Rob that at the very minimum, any dtsi files in the
> kernel should be build-tested along with the rest, so either
> we add some dts files using them soon, or we can remove pxa2xx
> (and maybe pxa3xx) completely.

PXA3xx is in use by the Raumfeld boards, and I would really like to keep
them around.

For PXA2xx I'm torn. I don't have the capacity and hardware to work on
those, but I don't know how many users are out there with out-of-tree
dts files.

> I already plan to remove the remaining board files for both
> sa1100 and pxa soon, as nobody has picked up the task to do
> any further DT conversion after we removed the majority of
> the files back in 2022 and left only the ones that someone
> said they'd be interested in keeping.
>
> Robert, let me know if you or someone else is able to spend
> some time on sending (warning-free) dts files for pxa2xx
> machines soon. If not, I'd plan to remove whatever is there
> along with the board files and drivers.
> 
> I also checked the pxa3xx Raumfeld devicetree support that
> Daniel added in linux-3.7. The manufacturer's firmware
> download page contains kernel images based on this work,
> using a 4.19 kernel but built in 2022. If we remove pxa2xx
> DT support, it would be good to find out if anyone still
> plans to use something newer on that hardware, which may
> happen because of CRA requirements.

As I said, I would like to not close the door on this one if possible.


Thanks,
Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-18  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-12 20:32 Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-12-12 21:58 ` Robert Jarzmik
2025-12-17 16:04   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-12-18  8:21     ` Daniel [this message]
2025-12-22 22:04       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-12-28 11:11     ` Robert Jarzmik
2025-12-31  0:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-01-03 20:54         ` Robert Jarzmik

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