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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] KVM CPU frequency change hypercalls
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:17:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <70575c62-b9c5-7100-193a-5f4b8bed258c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170224114958.GA28618@amt.cnet>



On 24/02/2017 12:50, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>
>>> On all other cpufreq implementations, these boundaries still need to
>>> be set. Then, a "governor" must be selected. Such a "governor" decides
>>> what speed the processor shall run within the boundaries. One such
>>> "governor" is the "userspace" governor. This one allows the user - or
>>> a yet-to-implement userspace program - to decide what specific speed
>>> the processor shall run at.
>> The userspace program sets a policy for the whole system.
> No, its per cpu.

Yeah, what I mean is that userspace program can be per-CPU, but it looks
at all the processes running on that CPU ("the whole system").  This is
very different from a guest, which is isolated.

>>>> That's bad.  This feature is broken by design unless it does proper
>>>> save/restore across preemption.
>>> Whats the current usecase, or forseeable future usecase, for save/restore
>>> across preemption again? (which would validate the broken by design
>>> claim).
>> Stop a guest that is using cpufreq, start a guest that is not using it.
>> The second guest's performance now depends on the state that the first
>> guest left in cpufreq.
>
> Nothing forbids the host to implement switching with the
> current hypercall interface: all you need is a scheduler
> hook.

Can it be done in vcpu_load/vcpu_put?  But you still would have two
components (KVM and sysfs) potentially fighting over the frequency, and
that's still a bit ugly.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-24 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-02 17:47 Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-02 17:47 ` [patch 1/3] cpufreq: implement min/max/up/down functions Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-03  4:09   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-02-02 17:47 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: introduce ioctl to allow frequency hypercalls Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-03 17:03   ` Radim Krcmar
2017-02-22 21:18     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-23 16:48       ` Radim Krcmar
2017-02-23 17:31         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-02 17:47 ` [patch 3/3] KVM: x86: frequency change hypercalls Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-02 18:01   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-03 17:40   ` Radim Krcmar
2017-02-03 18:24     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-03 19:28       ` Radim Krcmar
2017-02-03 12:50 ` [patch 0/3] KVM CPU " Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-03 16:43 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-02-03 18:14   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-03 19:09     ` Radim Krcmar
2017-02-23 17:35       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 23:19         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-24  9:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-24 11:50             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-24 12:17               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-02-24 13:04                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-24 15:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-24 16:54                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-28  2:45                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-03-01 14:21                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-01 15:11                         ` Marcelo Tosatti

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