From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regression: x86/mm: new _PTE_SWP_SOFT_DIRTY bit conflicts with existing use
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:58:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <71a3ac45-a091-4e5a-aa04-68af9219e30f@email.android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5214F09002000078000ED5C3@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
Only WB pages should be swappable, but even so, the cacheability should be in the vma.
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>> On 21.08.13 at 16:12, Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 02:48:20PM +0100, David Vrabel wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> 179ef71c (mm: save soft-dirty bits on swapped pages) introduces a
>new
>>> PTE bit on x86 _PTE_SWP_SOFT_DIRTY which has the same value as
>_PTE_PSE
>>> and _PTE_PAT.
>>>
>>> With a Xen PV guest, the use of the _PTE_PAT will result in the page
>>> having unexpected cachability which will introduce a range of subtle
>>> performance and correctness issues. Xen programs the entry 4 in the
>PAT
>>> table with WC so a page that was previously WB will end up as WC.
>>>
>>
>> David, could you please explain, Xen keeps and analyze _PTE_PAT bit
>> for ptes which are not present?
>
>No, the problem isn't with not-present PTEs (i.e. swap entries),
>but with present ones - the same bit (7) is being used for both,
>according to this comment:
>
>/*
> * Tracking soft dirty bit when a page goes to a swap is tricky.
> * We need a bit which can be stored in pte _and_ not conflict
> * with swap entry format. On x86 bits 6 and 7 are *not* involved
> * into swap entry computation, but bit 6 is used for nonlinear
> * file mapping, so we borrow bit 7 for soft dirty tracking.
> */
>
>Or are you telling me that the comment is misleading (at least me),
>and this applies only to not-present PTEs? And even then - where
>would the value of the original PAT bit be stored while swapped
>out (or is it impossible - now and forever - for WC pages to get
>swapped)?
>
>Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-21 14:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-21 13:48 David Vrabel
2013-08-21 13:53 ` konrad wilk
2013-08-21 14:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 14:19 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 14:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 14:29 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-21 16:42 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 23:05 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 23:42 ` Andi Kleen
2013-08-22 5:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-22 6:37 ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-22 13:12 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-27 22:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-21 14:12 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 14:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 14:53 ` Jan Beulich
2013-08-21 14:58 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-08-21 15:42 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 16:03 ` Jan Beulich
2013-08-21 16:19 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 16:56 ` David Vrabel
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 18:17 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 19:03 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 19:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-21 19:20 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-21 19:21 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-08-21 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 0:51 ` Dave Jones
2013-08-22 5:44 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-22 6:41 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-08-22 7:47 ` Jan Beulich
2013-08-22 9:32 ` David Vrabel
2013-08-22 10:16 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-08-22 6:56 ` Jan Beulich
2013-08-22 7:03 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-22 7:27 ` Jan Beulich
2013-08-22 11:27 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-22 11:33 ` Jan Beulich
2013-08-22 12:18 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-08-21 17:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 7:54 ` Jan Beulich
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