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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Cc: airlied@gmail.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, matthew.brost@intel.com,
	sarah.walker@imgtec.com, donald.robson@imgtec.com,
	boris.brezillon@collabora.com, faith@gfxstrand.net,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 09/12] drm/gpuvm: reference count drm_gpuvm structures
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 08:22:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <71a50cac-3253-480f-adff-da475738ae6b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <987ac707-8f9b-4e33-86c3-decdc1c48a3a@redhat.com>

Am 10.11.23 um 17:57 schrieb Danilo Krummrich:
> On 11/10/23 09:50, Christian König wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another issue Christian brought up is that something intended to 
>>>>> be embeddable (a base class) shouldn't really have its own 
>>>>> refcount. I think that's a valid point. If you at some point need 
>>>>> to derive from multiple such structs each having its own refcount, 
>>>>> things will start to get weird. One way to resolve that would be 
>>>>> to have the driver's subclass provide get() and put() ops, and 
>>>>> export a destructor for the base-class, rather than to have the 
>>>>> base-class provide the refcount and a destructor  ops.
>>>
>>> GPUVM simply follows the same pattern we have with drm_gem_objects. 
>>> And I think it makes
>>> sense. Why would we want to embed two struct drm_gpuvm in a single 
>>> driver structure?
>>
>> Because you need one drm_gpuvm structure for each application using 
>> the driver? Or am I missing something?
>
> Right, *one*, but not more than one. Wasn't that the concern? Maybe I 
> misunderstood something. :)

Well, there is the use case of native context with XEN/KVM. In that 
situation QEMU opens tons of driver file descriptors on behalves of the 
virtual environment clients.

In this use case you have many drm_gpuvm instances for a single 
application. So you can't assume that you only have one VM per PID/TGID 
or something like that.

AMD already made that mistake with KFD and I strongly suggest not to 
repeat it :)

Regards,
Christian.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-13  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-01 23:30 [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 00/12] [RFC] DRM GPUVM features Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-01 23:30 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 01/12] drm/gpuvm: convert WARN() to drm_WARN() variants Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-01 23:30 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 02/12] drm/gpuvm: don't always WARN in drm_gpuvm_check_overflow() Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02 13:19   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-01 23:30 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 03/12] drm/gpuvm: export drm_gpuvm_range_valid() Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02 13:20   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-01 23:30 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 04/12] drm/nouveau: make use of drm_gpuvm_range_valid() Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02  4:46   ` Dave Airlie
2023-11-01 23:30 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 05/12] drm/gpuvm: add common dma-resv per struct drm_gpuvm Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-01 23:30 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 06/12] drm/nouveau: make use of the GPUVM's shared dma-resv Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-01 23:30 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 07/12] drm/gpuvm: add drm_gpuvm_flags to drm_gpuvm Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 08/12] drm/nouveau: separately allocate struct nouveau_uvmm Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02  4:44   ` Dave Airlie
2023-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 09/12] drm/gpuvm: reference count drm_gpuvm structures Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02 10:46   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-02 13:21   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-02 17:09   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-02 17:32     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02 18:04       ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-03  7:18   ` Christian König
2023-11-03 13:14     ` Danilo Krummrich
     [not found]       ` <a2e13a27-d2e5-4ae3-9c11-c18b425b69cc@amd.com>
2023-11-03 15:34         ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-06  9:14           ` Christian König
2023-11-06 12:16             ` Danilo Krummrich
     [not found]               ` <8e87d962-c80c-40d9-94d7-58b6cd9dd794@amd.com>
2023-11-06 14:11                 ` Danilo Krummrich
     [not found]                   ` <6d3c48f6-a92d-49b3-b836-ee1bc95b56bf@amd.com>
2023-11-06 16:42                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-09 15:50                       ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-09 16:03                         ` Christian König
2023-11-09 18:34                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-10  8:50                             ` Christian König
2023-11-10  9:39                               ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-10 10:42                                 ` Christian König
2023-11-10 10:52                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-10 16:49                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-10 16:43                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-10 16:57                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-13  7:22                                 ` Christian König [this message]
2023-11-13 12:57                                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 10/12] drm/gpuvm: add an abstraction for a VM / BO combination Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02 13:25   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-02 17:16   ` Thomas Hellström
2023-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 11/12] drm/gpuvm: track/lock/validate external/evicted objects Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH drm-misc-next v8 12/12] drm/nouveau: use GPUVM common infrastructure Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-02  4:47   ` Dave Airlie
2023-11-02 13:18   ` Thomas Hellström

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