From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Josh Poimboeuf' <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Ilie Halip <ilie.halip@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: RE: objtool warning "uses BP as a scratch register" with clang-9
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 15:39:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <71c29f9ae371444f8b8e42bdf364a470@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190830150208.jyk7tfzznqimc6ow@treble>
From: Josh Poimboeuf
> Sent: 30 August 2019 16:02
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 03:26:30PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:22 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe we can just pass -fno-builtin-memcpy -fno-builtin-memset
> > > for clang when CONFIG_KASAN is set and hope for the best?
> >
> > I really hate how that disables conversions both ways, which is kind
> > of pointless and wrong. It's really just "we don't want surprising
> > memcpy calls for single writes".
> >
> > Disabling all the *good* "optimize memset/memcpy" cases is really sad.
> >
> > We actually have a lot of small structures in the kernel on purpose
> > (often for type safety), and I bet we use memcpy on them on purpose at
> > times. I'd hate to see that become a function call rather than "copy
> > two words by hand".
> >
> > Even for KASAN.
> >
> > And I guess that when the compiler sees 20+ "set to zero" it's quite
> > reasonable to say "just turn it into a memset".
>
> For KASAN, the Clang threshold for inserting memset() is *2* consecutive
> writes instead of 17. Isn't that likely to cause tearing-related
> surprises?
Hmmm... I don't think I'd ever want a compiler to convert a sequence
of zero writes into a memset.
It is as bad as a certain compiler converting:
for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
tgt[i] = src[i];
into a 'rep movs' instruction.
Inlining memcpy() as 'rep movs' is one thing, the opposite is wrong.
David
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-30 15:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-27 12:30 Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-27 14:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-27 14:59 ` Ilie Halip
2019-08-27 19:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-27 19:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-27 19:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-27 21:21 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-08-28 9:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 14:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 14:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-28 15:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 17:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-28 19:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 15:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 15:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-28 15:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 15:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-29 23:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-30 10:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-30 15:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-30 15:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-30 16:12 ` David Laight
2019-08-30 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-29 17:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-29 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-29 20:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-29 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:02 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-30 15:39 ` David Laight [this message]
2019-08-30 15:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:55 ` David Laight
2019-08-30 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 16:42 ` David Laight
2019-08-30 16:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-02 9:02 ` David Laight
2019-09-04 11:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-08-28 22:13 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-08-29 0:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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