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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Josh Poimboeuf' <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Ilie Halip <ilie.halip@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: RE: objtool warning "uses BP as a scratch register" with clang-9
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 15:39:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <71c29f9ae371444f8b8e42bdf364a470@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190830150208.jyk7tfzznqimc6ow@treble>

From: Josh Poimboeuf
> Sent: 30 August 2019 16:02
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 03:26:30PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:22 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe we can just pass -fno-builtin-memcpy -fno-builtin-memset
> > > for clang when CONFIG_KASAN is set and hope for the best?
> >
> > I really hate how that disables conversions both ways, which is kind
> > of pointless and wrong.  It's really just "we don't want surprising
> > memcpy calls for single writes".
> >
> > Disabling all the *good* "optimize memset/memcpy" cases is really sad.
> >
> > We actually have a lot of small structures in the kernel on purpose
> > (often for type safety), and I bet we use memcpy on them on purpose at
> > times. I'd hate to see that become a function call rather than "copy
> > two words by hand".
> >
> > Even for KASAN.
> >
> > And I guess that when the compiler sees 20+ "set to zero" it's quite
> > reasonable to say "just turn it into a memset".
> 
> For KASAN, the Clang threshold for inserting memset() is *2* consecutive
> writes instead of 17.  Isn't that likely to cause tearing-related
> surprises?

Hmmm... I don't think I'd ever want a compiler to convert a sequence
of zero writes into a memset.

It is as bad as a certain compiler converting:
	for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
		tgt[i] = src[i];
into a 'rep movs' instruction.
Inlining memcpy() as 'rep movs' is one thing, the opposite is wrong.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-30 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-27 12:30 Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-27 14:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-27 14:59   ` Ilie Halip
2019-08-27 19:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-27 19:22       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-27 19:47         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-27 21:21           ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-08-28  9:00             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 14:06               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 14:51               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-28 15:29                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 17:57                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-28 19:41                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 15:13               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 15:22                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-28 15:28                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-28 15:40                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-29 23:24                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-30 10:44                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-30 15:14                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-30 15:58                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-30 16:12                               ` David Laight
2019-08-30 16:03                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-29 17:34                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-29 18:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-29 20:21                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-08-29 22:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:02                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-08-30 15:39                               ` David Laight [this message]
2019-08-30 15:48                               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:55                                 ` David Laight
2019-08-30 16:01                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 16:42                                     ` David Laight
2019-08-30 16:49                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-02  9:02                                   ` David Laight
2019-09-04 11:53                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-08-28 22:13         ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-08-29  0:28           ` Josh Poimboeuf

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