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From: Alexey Izbyshev <izbyshev@ispras.ru>
To: Andrei Vagin <avagin@google.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] selftests/timens: add a test for vfork+exit
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 01:15:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <724cf9e4b07b7d25135f3f1427f1c9fc@ispras.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEWA0a6DHqZOduKhJi7o12RprGt2LGqGOC86TKN1bTXn36u7hw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2022-10-13 20:46, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:10 AM Alexey Izbyshev <izbyshev@ispras.ru> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2022-09-21 03:31, Andrei Vagin wrote:
>> > From: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> > +     if (pid == 0) {
>> > +             char now_str[64];
>> > +             char *cargv[] = {"exec", now_str, NULL};
>> > +             char *cenv[] = {NULL};
>> > +
>> > +             // Check that we are still in the source timens.
>> > +             if (check("child before exec", &now))
>> > +                     return 1;
>> 
>> I know this is just a test, but...
>> 
>> Creating threads in a vfork()-child is quite dangerous (like most 
>> other
>> things that touch the libc state, which is shared with the parent
>> process). Here it works probably only because pthread_create() 
>> followed
>> by pthread_join() restores everything into more-or-less the original
>> state before returning control to the parent, but this is something 
>> that
>> libcs don't guarantee and that can break at any moment.
>> 
>> Also, returning from a vfork()-child is explicitly forbidden by the
>> vfork() contract because the parent would then return to an invalid
>> stack frame that could be arbitrarily clobbered by code executed in 
>> the
>> child after main() returned. Moreover, if I'm not mistaken, on x86 
>> with
>> Intel CET-enabled glibc (assuming the support for CET is ever merged
>> into the kernel) such return would cause the parent to always trap
>> because the shadow stack will become inconsistent with the normal 
>> stack.
>> Instead, _exit() should be used here...
>> 
> 
> Hi Alexey,
> 
> You are right, it isn't a good idea to create threads from the vfork-ed
> process. Now, vfork isn't a special case in the kernel code, so I think
> we can just remove the check() call from here. I have sent an updated
> version of this patch, pls take a look at it.
> 
Hi, Andrei,

While I think you could just skip check_in_thread() in the vfork()-child 
instead of removing check() completely (the rest of the code in check() 
is unlikely to mess up the libc state), I agree that the test is still 
able to catch problems unconditionally affecting all CLONE_VM tasks 
thanks to check_in_thread() in the parent, so I don't see much point in 
holding it up further. Your v2 patch looks good enough to me, thanks!

Alexey

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-13 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21  0:31 [PATCH 1/2] fs/exec: switch timens when a task gets a new mm Andrei Vagin
2022-09-21  0:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/timens: add a test for vfork+exit Andrei Vagin
2022-10-09 16:10   ` Alexey Izbyshev
2022-10-13 17:46     ` Andrei Vagin
2022-10-13 22:15       ` Alexey Izbyshev [this message]
2022-10-13 17:31   ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] " Andrei Vagin
2022-09-22  3:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs/exec: switch timens when a task gets a new mm Kees Cook
2022-09-23  1:47   ` Andrei Vagin
2022-09-24  5:02     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18  7:21 ` Kees Cook

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