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From: David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>
To: "Trenton D. Adams" <trenton.d.adams@gmail.com>
Cc: Christian Kujau <lists@nerdbynature.de>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:55:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72dbd3150904021855v440f46a7oc21a7ed28fbfcb13@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b1675090904021728y35776377u327f2266d06e2f29@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Trenton D. Adams
<trenton.d.adams@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Trenton D. Adams
> <trenton.d.adams@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, mounting "-o sync" does improve ext3 performance.  It sucks
>> though, because I do want quick writes.  And mounting with sync option
>> slows down to disk io speeds.  In my case, that's between 20 and 23
>> megabytes per second *big frown, quivering lip, and tears in my eyes*.
>> :P
>>
>
> Oh, I should have clarified.  It improves performance under heavy
> load.  Under normal load, mounting without sync is fine.  What I tend
> to do is mount with "remount,rw,sync" when heavy load is starting.
> Then my system goes slowly, but latency is good.  Then, when it's all
> done (say a big compile, or job, or whatever), I remount without sync
> again.
>
> I'm thinking of writing a script that monitors performance, and
> remounts as needed, lol.  WHAT A HACK. hehe.

All you're doing here is implementing the lowering of dirty data
limits in the VM dynamically based on how long fsyncs take.

Linus outlined this specific strategy as "the ideal siutation"
somewhere in the depths of "That filesystem thread".

Look at the new in 2.6.29 dirty*bytes parameters in
Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt for more info.  By lowering those values,
you can effectively turn normal writes into synchronous writes which
will greatly reduce latency of fsync under heavy write load.

In previous kernels you can tweak dirty_ratio and
dirty_background_ratio, but they don't have the granularity of the new
knobs.  Although if you are talking about just remounting in sync
mode, they may work for you at least as a proof of concept. ;-)

-Dave

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-03  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-27 12:48 Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-28  1:22 ` Kyungmin Park
2009-03-29 12:31   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:54     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:26 ` replace() system call needed (was Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS) Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 12:42   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:50     ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:00       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:02         ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:07           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:22             ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-29 13:55               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:40             ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:57               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 14:00                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-30 17:19       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 22:11         ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:01     ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-29 13:06       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-30 15:58   ` Diego Calleja
2009-04-03  0:09 ` EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS Christian Kujau
2009-04-03  0:24   ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:28     ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:38       ` Christian Kujau
2009-04-03  0:54         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:54         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:59           ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  1:55       ` David Rees [this message]
2009-04-03  2:05         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:19           ` David Rees
2009-04-03  2:28             ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:58               ` David Rees
2009-04-03  3:13                 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  3:14                   ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  5:02                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03  5:15                   ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  6:30                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03 18:53                       ` Chris Adams
2009-04-03 18:05                   ` David Rees
2009-04-09 20:17                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-03  2:26         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:05   ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03  2:45     ` Christian Kujau
2009-04-03  2:49       ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  6:53   ` Artem Bityutskiy
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