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From: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:27:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <747CB5A4-119B-424F-84C4-5B06FF290C89@grrlz.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aj5TNB8cRtMNTtIT@pathway.suse.cz>

On June 26, 2026 11:23:48 AM GMT+01:00, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
wrote:
>On Thu 2026-06-25 15:25:58, Bradley Morgan wrote:
>> panic_other_cpus_shutdown() handles SYS_INFO_ALL_BT before stopping the
>> other CPUs. Do not ask sys_info() to handle that bit again later in the
>> panic path.
>> 
>> Use sys_info_with_filter() so panic_print=all_bt does not request more
>> output after the CPUs are stopped.
>> 
>> Fixes: a9af76a78760 ("watchdog: add sys_info sysctls to dump sys info on
>system lockup")
>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>> Signed-off-by: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>
>> ---
>>  kernel/panic.c | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
>> index 213725b612aa..eb842823df61 100644
>> --- a/kernel/panic.c
>> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
>> @@ -680,7 +680,7 @@ void vpanic(const char *fmt, va_list args)
>>  	 */
>>  	atomic_notifier_call_chain(&panic_notifier_list, 0, buf);
>>  
>> -	sys_info(panic_print);
>> +	sys_info_with_filter(panic_print, SYS_INFO_ALL_BT);
>
>Hmm, this prevents printing backtraces from all CPUs completely.
>But what if they were not printed?
>
>They might be printed by:
>
>static void panic_other_cpus_shutdown(bool crash_kexec)
>{
>	if (panic_print & SYS_INFO_ALL_BT)
>		panic_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace();
>
>[...]
>}
>
>But it checks only "panic_print" variable. It won't do anything
>when (panic_print == 0).
>
>In this case, we might still want to print the backraces when
>SYS_INFO_ALL_BT is set in kernel_si_info.
>
>>  	kmsg_dump_desc(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC, buf);
>
>Of course, we might fix panic_other_cpus_shutdown() to check also
>kernel_si_info.
>
>But it all becomes very hairy. We have several levels:
>
>   + watchdog-all_bt-specific option, e.g. sysctl_hardlockup_all_cpu_backtrace
>
>   + watchdog-specific si_info preferences, e.g. hardlockup_si_mask
>
>   + panic-specific si_info: panic_print
>
>   + universal fallback for any layer: kernel_si_info
>
>Now, we try to check all these variables back and forth to
>trigger all backtraces or to avoid triggering them.
>And it clearly does not work well and the code is more and more
>hairy.
>
>I think about another approach. The word "waterfall" comes to my mind.
>Instead of checking all the settings back and forth, let's process
>each setting one by one and just remember what has been done and
>skip this in the next level.
>
>All the si_info actions seems to dump a global system state.
>So, it would make sense to remember the state in a global variable
>even when it might be modified by more CPUs in parallel.

Not a bad idea.

>I am going to think more about it.
>
>Please, do not send v4 until the discussion settles!

I'll hold on V4.

When you've finished discussing, could I have your suggested patch?
if I think there is issues. I'll fix it.

>Best Regards,
>Petr
>

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-26 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-25 15:25 [PATCH v3 0/4] sys_info: prevent " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] sys_info: add helper for callers that print some sys_info on their own Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] watchdog: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] powerpc/watchdog: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26  9:42   ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 10:23   ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 10:27     ` Bradley Morgan [this message]
2026-06-26 12:06     ` Feng Tang
2026-06-26 12:14     ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 12:17       ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 12:32         ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:26           ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:35             ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:47               ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:58                 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-29 11:40       ` Feng Tang
2026-06-29 12:54         ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-02  9:09           ` Petr Mladek
2026-07-02 18:13             ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-02 18:22               ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-03 12:46               ` Petr Mladek
2026-07-03 15:25                 ` Bradley Morgan

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