From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/16] mm/slab: do not init any kfence objects on allocation
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 00:11:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <74adf668-78c2-4989-a6c6-c6ec7bd68855@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e71bfc13-c233-4f85-a6ec-76327d3c6510@kernel.org>
On 6/11/26 11:47 PM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 6/11/26 10:34, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> On 6/11/26 05:19, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>
>>>> This potentially adds overhead of the is_kfence_address() check to
>>>> allocation hotpath, but that one is designed to be as small as possible,
>>>> and it's only evaluated if zeroing is about to happen. This means (aside
>>>> from init_on_alloc hardening) only for __GFP_ZERO allocations, and the
>>>> zeroing itself comes with an overhead likely larger than the added
>>>> check.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
>>>> ---
>>>> mm/kfence/core.c | 2 +-
>>>> mm/slub.c | 23 ++++++++---------------
>>>> 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/slub.c b/mm/slub.c
>>>> index e2ee8f1aaccf..8e5264d3ddbf 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/slub.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/slub.c
>>>> @@ -4565,9 +4565,10 @@ struct kmem_cache *slab_pre_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t flags)
>>>>
>>>> static __fastpath_inline
>>>> bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s, struct list_lru *lru,
>>>> - gfp_t flags, size_t size, void **p, bool init,
>>>> + gfp_t flags, size_t size, void **p,
>>>> unsigned int orig_size)
>>>> {
>>>> + bool init = slab_want_init_on_alloc(flags, s);
>>>> unsigned int zero_size = s->object_size;
>>>> bool kasan_init = init;
>>>> size_t i;
>>>> @@ -4608,7 +4609,8 @@ bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s, struct list_lru *lru,
>>>> for (i = 0; i < size; i++) {
>>>> p[i] = kasan_slab_alloc(s, p[i], init_flags, kasan_init);
>>>> if (p[i] && init && (!kasan_init ||
>>>> - !kasan_has_integrated_init()))
>>>> + !kasan_has_integrated_init())
>>>> + && !is_kfence_address(p[i]))
>>>
>>> I hope we could make it bit more verbose and straightforward,
>>> something like:
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/slub.c b/mm/slub.c
>>> index 5d7ea72ebebd..29cf4590f9d9 100644
>>> --- a/mm/slub.c
>>> +++ b/mm/slub.c
>>> @@ -4573,7 +4573,6 @@ bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s,
>>> gfp_t flags, size_t size,
>>> {
>>> bool init = slab_want_init_on_alloc(flags, s);
>>> unsigned int zero_size = s->object_size;
>>> - bool kasan_init = init;
>>> size_t i;
>>> gfp_t init_flags = flags & gfp_allowed_mask;
>>>
>>> @@ -4591,29 +4590,37 @@ bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s,
>>> gfp_t flags, size_t size,
>>> if (slub_debug_orig_size(s))
>>> zero_size = ac->orig_size;
>>>
>>> - /*
>>> - * When slab_debug is enabled, avoid memory initialization integrated
>>> - * into KASAN and instead zero out the memory via the memset below with
>>> - * the proper size. Otherwise, KASAN might overwrite SLUB redzones and
>>> - * cause false-positive reports. This does not lead to a performance
>>> - * penalty on production builds, as slab_debug is not intended to be
>>> - * enabled there.
>>> - */
>>> - if (__slub_debug_enabled())
>>> - kasan_init = false;
>>> -
>>> - /*
>>> - * As memory initialization might be integrated into KASAN,
>>> - * kasan_slab_alloc and initialization memset must be
>>> - * kept together to avoid discrepancies in behavior.
>>> - *
>>> - * As p[i] might get tagged, memset and kmemleak hook come after KASAN.
>>> - */
>>> for (i = 0; i < size; i++) {
>>> - p[i] = kasan_slab_alloc(s, p[i], init_flags, kasan_init);
>>> - if (p[i] && init && (!kasan_init ||
>>> - !kasan_has_integrated_init())
>>> - && !is_kfence_address(p[i]))
>>> + bool skip_init = false;
>>> +
>>> + if (is_kfence_address(p[i])) {
>>> + /*
>>> + * kfence zeroes the object instead of SLUB to avoid
>>> + * overwriting its own redzone, and zeroing of
>>> + * s->object_size will corrupt it.
>>> + */
>>> + skip_init = true;
>>
>> But now we perform this check even if init is false, making it more hot.
>>
>>> + } else if (__slub_debug_enabled()) {
>>> + /*
>>> + * KASAN never zeroes memory when slab_debug is enabled
>>> + * to avoid overwriting SLUB redzones. This does not
>>> + * lead to a performance penalty on production builds,
>>> + * as slab_debug is not intended to be enabled there.
>>> + */
>>> + skip_init = false;
>>> + } else if (kasan_has_integrated_init()) {
>>> + /*
>>> + * ARM64 can set memory tags and zero the memory using
>>> + * a single instruction. Since HW_TAGS KASAN uses that
>>> + * while tagging the object, a separate zeroing is
>>> + * unnecessary unless slab_debug is enabled.
>>> + */
>>
>> (I like the new/updated comments)
>>
>>> + skip_init = true;
>>> + }>
>>
>> And these two are now done in every loop iteration even though they don't
>> depend on the object. Yeah it's a static key and build-time constant but still.
>>
>> But maybe there's some middle ground?
>>
>> Above the loop do (with your comments).
>
> OK, not so simple, we still need the kasan_init variable too.
Ouch, right.
> I've ended up with this, thoughts?
Much better!
> From 3a1c4398ce9f361a4e6f4d9946eab6237eea89c2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 17:40:04 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] mm/slab: do not init any kfence objects on allocation
>
> When init (zeroing) on allocation is requested, for kmalloc() we
> generally have to zero the full object size even if a smaller size is
> requested, in order to provide krealloc()'s __GFP_ZERO guarantees.
>
> When we end up allocating a kfence object, kfence perfoms the zeroing on
nit: perfoms -> performs
> its own because has its own redzone beyond the requested size. Thus
> slab_post_alloc_hook() has an 'init' parameter which has to be evaluated
> in all callers (via slab_want_init_on_alloc()) and should be false for
> kfence allocations.
>
> For kfence allocations in slab_alloc_node() this is achieved by subtly
> skipping over the slab_want_init_on_alloc() call. Other callers (i.e.
> kmem_cache_alloc_bulk_noprof()) however evaluate it unconditionally even
> if they do end up with a kfence allocation. This is only subtly not a
> problem, as those are not kmalloc allocations and thus the "requested
> size" equals s->object_size and thus it cannot interfere with kfence's
> redzone. There's just a unnecessary double zeroing (in both kfence and
> slab_post_alloc_hook()), but it's all very fragile and contradicts the
> comment in kfence_guarded_alloc().
>
> Remove this subtlety and simplify the code by eliminating the init
> parameter from slab_post_alloc_hook() and make it call
> slab_want_init_on_alloc() itself. Instead add a is_kfence_address()
> check before performing the memset, which will start doing the right
> thing for all callers of slab_post_alloc_hook().
>
> This potentially adds overhead of the is_kfence_address() check to
> allocation hotpath, but that one is designed to be as small as possible,
> and it's only evaluated if zeroing is about to happen. This means (aside
> from init_on_alloc hardening) only for __GFP_ZERO allocations, and the
> zeroing itself comes with an overhead likely larger than the added
> check.
> While at it, refactor the handling of evaluating when KASAN does the
> init instead of SLUB, with no intended functional changes. A
> non-functional change is that we don't pass kasan_init as true to
> kasan_slab_alloc() if kasan has no integrated init, but then the value
> is ignored anyway, so it's theoretically more correct.
Right.
> Thanks to Harry Yoo for the initial refactoring attempt, and for updated
> comments that are used here.
No problem ;)
> Link: https://patch.msgid.link/20260610-slab_alloc_flags-v2-2-7190909db118@kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
> ---
Looks good to me,
Reviewed-by: Harry Yoo (Oracle) <harry@kernel.org>
Thanks!
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-10 15:40 [PATCH v2 00/16] mm/slab: introduce alloc_flags and slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] mm/slab: do not limit zeroing to orig_size when only red zoning is enabled Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 4:28 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-12 3:47 ` Hao Li
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] mm/slab: do not init any kfence objects on allocation Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 3:19 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11 8:34 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 14:47 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 15:11 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-06-11 16:37 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 1:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 8:52 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] mm/slab: stop inlining __slab_alloc_node() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 3:48 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 1:33 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] mm/slab: introduce slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 4:49 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-12 3:10 ` Hao Li
2026-06-12 9:51 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 1:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] mm/slab: introduce alloc_flags and SLAB_ALLOC_TRYLOCK Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 4:57 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11 6:40 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11 8:51 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 3:49 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 2:00 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 2:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 2:16 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-15 9:02 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 15:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] mm/slab: add alloc_flags to slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 5:06 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-12 3:50 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 2:20 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] mm/slab: replace struct partial_context with slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 6:05 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-15 2:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 10:01 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-17 14:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-12 4:04 ` Hao Li
2026-06-12 9:56 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] mm/slab: pass alloc_flags to new slab allocation Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 7:52 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-15 10:14 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 5:26 ` Hao Li
2026-06-12 9:59 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 4:10 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] mm/slab: pass alloc_flags through slab_post_alloc_hook() chain Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 4:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 11:33 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] mm/slab: replace slab_alloc_node() parameters with slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 5:28 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 4:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] mm/slab: allow kmem_cache_alloc_bulk() with any gfp flags Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 3:21 ` Hao Li
2026-06-12 10:05 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 4:48 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] mm/slab: pass slab_alloc_context to __do_kmalloc_node() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 5:34 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 4:58 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 11:08 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] mm/slab: allow __GFP_NOMEMALLOC and __GFP_NOWARN for kmalloc_nolock() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 6:57 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 5:06 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] mm/slab: introduce kmalloc_flags() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 8:02 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 5:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] mm/slab: remove __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT usage from alloc_slab_obj_exts() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 16:28 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 6:54 ` Hao Li
2026-06-12 10:17 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 11:29 ` Hao Li
2026-06-15 5:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 11:11 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-16 6:47 ` Hao Ge
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] mm/slab: replace __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT with SLAB_ALLOC_NO_RECURSE for sheaves Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 8:16 ` Hao Li
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