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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: zswap: add VM_BUG_ON() if large folio swapin is attempted
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 23:17:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7507d075-9f4d-4a9b-836c-1fbb2fbd2257@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkZH9C21nx75W9Erun=oUvmad5ujmDyGYWRRHEwPCCizUw@mail.gmail.com>

On 06.06.24 22:31, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 1:22 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 06.06.24 20:48, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>> With ongoing work to support large folio swapin, it is important to make
>>> sure we do not pass large folios to zswap_load() without implementing
>>> proper support.
>>>
>>> For example, if a swapin fault observes that contiguous PTEs are
>>> pointing to contiguous swap entries and tries to swap them in as a large
>>> folio, swap_read_folio() will pass in a large folio to zswap_load(), but
>>> zswap_load() will only effectively load the first page in the folio. If
>>> the first page is not in zswap, the folio will be read from disk, even
>>> though other pages may be in zswap.
>>>
>>> In both cases, this will lead to silent data corruption.
>>>
>>> Proper large folio swapin support needs to go into zswap before zswap
>>> can be enabled in a system that supports large folio swapin.
>>>
>>> Looking at callers of swap_read_folio(), it seems like they are either
>>> allocated from __read_swap_cache_async() or do_swap_page() in the
>>> SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO path. Both of which allocate order-0 folios, so we
>>> are fine for now.
>>>
>>> Add a VM_BUG_ON() in zswap_load() to make sure that we detect changes in
>>> the order of those allocations without proper handling of zswap.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, swap_read_folio() (or its callers) can be updated to have
>>> a fallback mechanism that splits large folios or reads subpages
>>> separately. Similar logic may be needed anyway in case part of a large
>>> folio is already in the swapcache and the rest of it is swapped out.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Sorry for the long CC list, I just found myself repeatedly looking at
>>> new series that add swap support for mTHPs / large folios, making sure
>>> they do not break with zswap or make incorrect assumptions. This debug
>>> check should give us some peace of mind. Hopefully this patch will also
>>> raise awareness among people who are working on this.
>>>
>>> ---
>>>    mm/zswap.c | 3 +++
>>>    1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/zswap.c b/mm/zswap.c
>>> index b9b35ef86d9be..6007252429bb2 100644
>>> --- a/mm/zswap.c
>>> +++ b/mm/zswap.c
>>> @@ -1577,6 +1577,9 @@ bool zswap_load(struct folio *folio)
>>>        if (!entry)
>>>                return false;
>>>
>>> +     /* Zswap loads do not handle large folio swapins correctly yet */
>>> +     VM_BUG_ON(folio_test_large(folio));
>>> +
>>
>> There is no way we could have a WARN_ON_ONCE() and recover, right?
> 
> Not without making more fundamental changes to the surrounding swap
> code. Currently zswap_load() returns either true (folio was loaded
> from zswap) or false (folio is not in zswap).
> 
> To handle this correctly zswap_load() would need to tell
> swap_read_folio() which subpages are in zswap and have been loaded,
> and then swap_read_folio() would need to read the remaining subpages
> from disk. This of course assumes that the caller of swap_read_folio()
> made sure that the entire folio is swapped out and protected against
> races with other swapins.
> 
> Also, because swap_read_folio() cannot split the folio itself, other
> swap_read_folio_*() functions that are called from it should be
> updated to handle swapping in tail subpages, which may be questionable
> in its own right.
> 
> An alternative would be that zswap_load() (or a separate interface)
> could tell swap_read_folio() that the folio is partially in zswap,
> then we can just bail and tell the caller that it cannot read the
> large folio and that it should be split.
> 
> There may be other options as well, but the bottom line is that it is
> possible, but probably not something that we want to do right now.
> 
> A stronger protection method would be to introduce a config option or
> boot parameter for large folio swapin, and then make CONFIG_ZSWAP
> depend on it being disabled, or have zswap check it at boot and refuse
> to be enabled if it is on.

Right, sounds like the VM_BUG_ON() really is not that easily avoidable.

I was wondering, if we could WARN_ON_ONCE and make the swap code detect 
this like a read-error from disk.

I think do_swap_page() detects that by checking if the folio is not 
uptodate:

if (unlikely(!folio_test_uptodate(folio))) {
	ret = VM_FAULT_SIGBUS;
	goto out_nomap;
}

So maybe WARN_ON_ONCE() + triggering that might be a bit nicer to the 
system (but the app would crash either way, there is no way around it).

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-06 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-06 18:48 Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 20:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-06 20:31   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 20:54     ` Barry Song
2024-06-06 21:00       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 21:17     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-06-06 21:30       ` Barry Song
2024-06-06 21:37         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 21:53           ` Barry Song
2024-06-07  7:11             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-07 17:43               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 18:52                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-07 18:58                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 19:03                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-07 21:13                     ` Chris Li
2024-06-07 23:14                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 22:09                     ` Barry Song
2024-06-08  0:28                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 21:20                 ` Barry Song
2024-06-07 23:17                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-07 22:28                     ` Barry Song
2024-06-08  0:32                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-06-06 21:36       ` Yosry Ahmed

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