From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tmgross@umich.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add a wrapper for sphinx-build
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 17:33:37 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <750e7225a88b7eb81c8f084477ebad66734c4dd7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5gyu27qlfg7frb4v3ssqms6inqammtakwchgl635r3ahooj5n@vhw5tnyti7nd>
On Mon, 15 Sep 2025, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 03:54:26PM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2025, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > IMHO, long term solution is to change SPHINXDIRS into something
>> > like:
>> >
>> > make O=doc_build SPHINXTITLE="Media docs" SPHINXDIRS="admin-guide/media userspace-api/media driver-api/media/"
>> >
>> > would create something similar to this(*):
>> >
>> > doc_build/sphindirs/
>> > |
>> > +--> index.rst
>> > +--> admin-guide -> {srcdir}/Documentation/admin-guide/media/
>> > +--> usespace-api -> {srcdir}/Documentation/admin-guide/media/
>> > \--> driver-api -> {srcdir}/Documentation/admin-guide/media/
>>
>> So you're basically suggesting the documentation build should support
>> cherry-picking parts of the documentation with categories different from
>> what the upstream documentation has?
>
> No. I'm saying that, if we want to have a single build process
> for multiple sphinxdirs, that sounds to be the better way to do it
> to override sphinx-build limitation of having single source directory.
>
> The advantages is that:
> - brings more performance, as a single build would be enough;
> - cross-references between them will be properly solved.
>
> The disadvantages are:
> - it would very likely need to create copies (or hard symlinks)
> at the build dir, which may reduce performance;
> - yet-another-hack;
> - increased build complexity.
>
> I'm not convinced myself about doing it or not. I didn't like when
> I had to do that after the media book was split on 3 books. If one thinks
> that having for loops to build targets is a problem, we need a separate
> discussion about how to avoid it. Also, this is outside of the scope of
> this series.
I honestly don't even understand what you're saying above, and how it
contradicts with what I said about cherry-picking the documentation to
build.
>
> -
>
> Another alternative to achieve such goal of not needing a loop at Sphinx
> to handle multiple books in parallel would be to submit a patch for
> Sphinx to get rid of the current limitation of having a single book
> with everything on a single directory. Sphinx has already hacks for it
> with "latex_documents", "man_pages", "texinfo_documents" conf.py variables
> that are specific for non-html builders.
>
> Still, when such variables are used, a post-sphinx-build logic with a
> per-output-file loop is needed.
>
>> I.e. even if we figured out how to
>> do intersphinx books, you'd want to grab parts from them and turn them
>> into something else?
>
> Either doing it or not, intersphinx is intestesting.
>
>> Ugh.
>>
>>
>> BR,
>> Jani.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jani Nikula, Intel
--
Jani Nikula, Intel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-15 14:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-04 7:33 [PATCH v4 00/19] Split sphinx call logic from docs Makefile Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 01/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: move the code to a class Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 02/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: move its class to the lib directory Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 03/19] scripts/jobserver-exec: add a help message Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 04/19] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: move it to tools/docs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 16:42 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-05 7:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-05 12:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 05/19] tools/docs: python_version: move version check from sphinx-pre-install Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:14 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-10 12:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 10:28 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 10:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 06/19] tools/docs: python_version: drop a debug print Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 07/19] tools/docs: python_version: allow check for alternatives and bail out Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 08/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add a wrapper for sphinx-build Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 14:53 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 15:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 18:56 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 20:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-09 15:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-09 16:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:46 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-10 12:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 13:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 10:15 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-12 11:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 14:03 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-12 14:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 8:27 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-09-15 10:58 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 12:54 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-15 13:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-15 14:33 ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2025-09-15 15:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 10:23 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 11:37 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-11 13:38 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-11 19:33 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-11 19:47 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-12 8:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 10:16 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 11:34 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-13 10:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 11:41 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 8:28 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 09/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add comments and blank lines Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 10/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add support to run inside venv Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:51 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 8:46 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 9:22 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 12:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 11/19] docs: parallel-wrapper.sh: remove script Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 12/19] docs: Makefile: document latex/PDF PAPER= parameter Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-10 10:54 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 8:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-12 9:23 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-12 10:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 13/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: add an argument for LaTeX interactive mode Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 14/19] tools/docs,scripts: sphinx-*: prevent sphinx-build crashes Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 15/19] tools/docs: sphinx-build-wrapper: allow building PDF files in parallel Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 16/19] docs: add support to build manpages from kerneldoc output Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 17/19] tools: kernel-doc: add a see also section at man pages Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 18/19] scripts: kdoc_parser.py: warn about Python version only once Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-04 7:33 ` [PATCH v4 19/19] tools/docs: sphinx-* break documentation bulds on openSUSE Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-05 16:07 ` [PATCH v4 00/19] Split sphinx call logic from docs Makefile Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-06 9:40 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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