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From: Jinjie Ruan <ruanjinjie@huawei.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Convert barrier pairs to acquire/release for better performance
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:29:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75aeca50-74bf-4888-9dc8-7ac3c5af32ca@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apq5iLOF8lAQ_ZVU@pathway.suse.cz>



在 2026/9/4 20:28, Petr Mladek 写道:
> Adding Risc-V list into Cc.
> 
> On Wed 2026-09-02 15:47:57, Jinjie Ruan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This series converts some existing smp_wmb()/smp_rmb() barrier pairs to
>> smp_store_release()/smp_load_acquire() across various subsystems.
>>
>> Background
>> ==========
>>
>> Many architectures support load acquire and store release instructions
>> which can replace explicit memory barriers and save cycles. As noted
>> in the ARM architecture reference [1]:
>>
>>   "Weaker ordering requirements that are imposed by Load-Acquire and
>>    Store-Release instructions allow for micro-architectural
>>    optimizations, which could reduce some of the performance impacts
>>    that are otherwise imposed by an explicit memory barrier.
>>
>>    If the ordering requirement is satisfied using either a Load-Acquire
>>    or Store-Release, then it would be preferable to use these
>>    instructions instead of a DMB."
>>
>> On arm64, a typical seqcount [2] read loop requires 13 cycles with DMB
>> barriers. Replacing the read barrier with smp_load_acquire() reduces
>> this to 8 cycles on an Ampere Altra.
> 
> I wonder if this is true on all other architectures:
> 
>   + It seems that Arm gets the gain because the instruction
>     does both load/store + barrier. It helps even when
>     the barrier is full.
> 
>   + Some other architectures need two instructions. One for the
>     load/store and the other for the barrier. But the barrier
>     is weaker, it synchronizes just reads or just writes.
> 
> For example, I see the following in riscv/include/asm/barrier.h:
> 
> <paste riscv/include/asm/barrier.h>
> #define smp_mb()	RISCV_FENCE(rw, rw)
> #define smp_rmb()	RISCV_FENCE(r, r)
> #define smp_wmb()	RISCV_FENCE(w, w)
> 
> #define smp_store_release(p, v)						\
> do {									\
> 	RISCV_FENCE(rw, w);						\
> 	WRITE_ONCE(*p, v);						\
> } while (0)
> 
> #define smp_load_acquire(p)						\
> ({									\
> 	typeof(*p) ___p1 = READ_ONCE(*p);				\
> 	RISCV_FENCE(r, rw);						\
> 	___p1;								\
> })
> </paste riscv/include/asm/barrier.h>
> 
> I wonder whether:
> 
>   + RISCV_FENCE(r, r) is faster than RISCV_FENCE(r, rw)
>   + RISCV_FENCE(w, w) is faster than RISCV_FENCE(rw, w)
> 
> so it might cause performance regression there...

Hi Petr,

Thanks for the detailed analysis. You're right that on some
architectures the acquire/release variants use a slightly heavier
fence than the plain smp_wmb()/smp_rmb() pair. The full picture by
architecture:

  arm64:    Improvement   (DMB ISHST/ISHLD + STR/LDR → STLR/LDAR)
  x86:      Neutral       (both are compiler barriers)
  s390:     Neutral       (both are compiler barriers)
  ppc64:    Neutral       (both use lwsync)
  loongarch: Slightly heavier fence (DBAR(o_w_w) → DBAR(orw_w),
                           DBAR(or_r_) → DBAR(or_rw))
  riscv:    Slightly heavier fence (fence w,w → fence rw,w,
                           fence r,r → fence r,rw)

So on Loongarch and Riscv, there may be a slight performance regression.

Regards,
Jinjie

> 
> Best Regards,
> Petr
> 
>> We also observed significant barrier overhead while profiling Unxibench
>> syscall test on arm64: a single getuid() call is ~8ns slower than on
>> a comparable x86 system, with the dominant cost in map_id_up()'s smp_rmb(),
>> which is a DMB ISHLD on arm64. Converting it to smp_load_acquire() allows
>> the use of LDAR, eliminating the measurable overhead.
>>
>> This motivated a broader search for existing barrier pairs that can
>> be converted to the lighter acquire/release semantics.
>>
>> Changes
>> =======
>>
>> Each patch in this series targets a specific barrier pair where the
>> publish/subscribe pattern is already present:
>>
>> - Writers populate data, then publish a flag/count/pointer via
>>   smp_store_release()
>>
>> - Readers load the flag/count/pointer via smp_load_acquire(), then
>>   consume the data
>>
>> This preserves the existing memory ordering guarantees while allowing
>> architectures with native acquire/release instructions (e.g. arm64's
>> STLR/LDAR) to avoid the cost of full one-way barriers (DMB ISHST/ISHLD).
>> On architectures without native support, the generated code is
>> generally no worse than the explicit barrier pair.
>>
>> The conversions are mechanical and no functional change is intended.
>>
>> Testing (Kunpeng HIP09 arm64 server)
>> ====================================
>>
>> 1. UNIXBENCH syscall
>> 	Baseline: 715.27
>> 	Patched:  718.83
>> 	Improvement: +0.50%
>>
>> 2. fs/aio (fio + null_blk, 4 jobs):
>> 	Baseline: 1441k IOPS, 86.46us
>> 	Patched:  1452k IOPS, 85.80us
>> 	Improvement: ~0.8%
>>
>> Both improvements are consistent across runs and align with the
>> expected savings from replacing DMB with LDAR/STLR on arm64.
>>
>> [1]: https://support.arm.com/documentation/102336/0100/Load-Acquire-and-Store-Release-instructions
>> [2]: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/d0dd066a0fa26d55c19ace9e89dedd9504c5bcba
>>
>> Changes in v3:
>> - Add Reviewed-by.
>> - Split out network patch set as Kuniyuki suggested.
>> - Link to v2: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260901024234.135119-1-ruanjinjie@huawei.com/
>>
>> Changes in v2:
>> - Fix pre-existing issue for ext4 and 8021q [3].
>> - Fix missing copy_mnt_idmap() udapte [3].
>> - Drop nacked isotp patch.
>> - Add test data.
>> - Add Reviewed-by and update fs patch as Jan suggested.
>>
>> [3]: https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260825095422.3166067-1-ruanjinjie%40huawei.com
>>
>> Jinjie Ruan (8):
>>   user_namespace: Use acquire/release for nr_extents synchronization
>>   lib/vsprintf: Use acquire/release for ptr_key publication
>>   fs: aio: Use acquire/release for ring->tail publication
>>   fs: Use acquire/release for fdtable resize synchronization
>>   pidfs: Use test_bit_acquire() for attr flag tests
>>   super: Use acquire for SB_BORN check in super_cache_count()
>>   ext4: Fix out-of-bounds read in ext4_get_group_info()
>>   ext4: Convert group-count barrier protocol to acquire/release
>>
>>  fs/aio.c                | 10 ++++------
>>  fs/ext4/balloc.c        |  2 +-
>>  fs/ext4/ext4.h          | 10 +++-------
>>  fs/ext4/mballoc.c       |  6 ++----
>>  fs/ext4/resize.c        | 19 +++++++++++--------
>>  fs/file.c               | 10 ++++------
>>  fs/mnt_idmapping.c      |  5 ++---
>>  fs/pidfs.c              |  6 ++----
>>  fs/super.c              |  6 ++----
>>  kernel/user_namespace.c | 24 +++++++++++++-----------
>>  lib/vsprintf.c          | 11 ++++-------
>>  11 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 61 deletions(-)
>>
>> -- 
>> 2.34.1


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-07 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-02  7:47 Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02  7:47 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] user_namespace: Use acquire/release for nr_extents synchronization Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02 10:09   ` Bradley Morgan
2026-09-02 13:03   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-02 13:04     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-03  1:42       ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-03  2:16     ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02  7:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] lib/vsprintf: Use acquire/release for ptr_key publication Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-04 13:13   ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-02  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] fs: aio: Use acquire/release for ring->tail publication Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] fs: Use acquire/release for fdtable resize synchronization Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] pidfs: Use test_bit_acquire() for attr flag tests Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] super: Use acquire for SB_BORN check in super_cache_count() Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] ext4: Fix out-of-bounds read in ext4_get_group_info() Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] ext4: Convert group-count barrier protocol to acquire/release Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-02 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Convert barrier pairs to acquire/release for better performance Theodore Tso
2026-09-02 14:56   ` Jan Kara
2026-09-04  7:20   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-04 12:28 ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-07 11:29   ` Jinjie Ruan [this message]
2026-09-07 12:59     ` David Laight
2026-09-09  7:11       ` Jinjie Ruan

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