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From: "Lee Revell" <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: dragoran <drago01@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: allow non root users to set io priority "idle" ?
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:26:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75b66ecd0708071926s519ebcf5t680c2ed8ab7ead8e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73zm14lxyy.fsf@bingen.suse.de>

On 06 Aug 2007 13:11:01 +0200, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> For IO I suppose the same could happen too. e.g. low priority
> task wants to write out a page and keeps it locked until the IO
> is finished. High priority task wants to access the page and has
> to wait until it is unlocked. Middle task generates an endless
> stream of IO that makes the idle priority writeout never finish.

I don't think it's a problem for high priority (RT) tasks - it's well
known in the real time Linux community that you never, ever do IO from
a thread that has to satisfy RT constraints.  A correct RT linux app
does its IO from a SCHED_NORMAL thread, with *plenty* of buffering,
and feeds the RT constrained SCHED_FIFO threads using a lock free
ringbuffer.

SCHED_IDLE starving SCHED_NORMAL is an issue of course.  But
SCHED_IDLE seems a lot more useful for read than write which I would
expect to take fewer locks.  For example I'd expect Beagle to want to
read at SCHED_IDLE but write out its indices at SCHED_NORMAL.

Would it make any sense to allow anyone to set SCHED_IDLE for reads
but require root to change IO priority for writes?

Lee

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-08  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-06  9:45 dragoran
2007-08-06 11:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:26   ` dragoran
2007-08-06 10:35     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 11:06       ` dragoran
2007-08-07 20:44       ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-07 21:35         ` dragoran
2007-08-07 22:18           ` dragoran
2007-08-08  0:04             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08  5:06             ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-08  9:37               ` dragoran
2007-08-08  2:26   ` Lee Revell [this message]
2007-08-08 10:17     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08  9:51   ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 10:20     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 11:49       ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 11:55         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 10:52     ` Jens Axboe
     [not found] <8P7nW-2Jc-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8P7QZ-3AR-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8P80L-3N5-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8P8ak-3Yr-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-07 18:21       ` Bodo Eggert

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