From: "Lee Revell" <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: dragoran <drago01@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: allow non root users to set io priority "idle" ?
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:26:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <75b66ecd0708071926s519ebcf5t680c2ed8ab7ead8e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73zm14lxyy.fsf@bingen.suse.de>
On 06 Aug 2007 13:11:01 +0200, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> For IO I suppose the same could happen too. e.g. low priority
> task wants to write out a page and keeps it locked until the IO
> is finished. High priority task wants to access the page and has
> to wait until it is unlocked. Middle task generates an endless
> stream of IO that makes the idle priority writeout never finish.
I don't think it's a problem for high priority (RT) tasks - it's well
known in the real time Linux community that you never, ever do IO from
a thread that has to satisfy RT constraints. A correct RT linux app
does its IO from a SCHED_NORMAL thread, with *plenty* of buffering,
and feeds the RT constrained SCHED_FIFO threads using a lock free
ringbuffer.
SCHED_IDLE starving SCHED_NORMAL is an issue of course. But
SCHED_IDLE seems a lot more useful for read than write which I would
expect to take fewer locks. For example I'd expect Beagle to want to
read at SCHED_IDLE but write out its indices at SCHED_NORMAL.
Would it make any sense to allow anyone to set SCHED_IDLE for reads
but require root to change IO priority for writes?
Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-08 2:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-06 9:45 dragoran
2007-08-06 11:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:26 ` dragoran
2007-08-06 10:35 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 11:06 ` dragoran
2007-08-07 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-07 21:35 ` dragoran
2007-08-07 22:18 ` dragoran
2007-08-08 0:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 5:06 ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-08 9:37 ` dragoran
2007-08-08 2:26 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2007-08-08 10:17 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 9:51 ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 10:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 11:49 ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 11:55 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 10:52 ` Jens Axboe
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2007-08-07 18:21 ` Bodo Eggert
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