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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>
Cc: "Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	"Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: kbuild: explain handling optional dependencies
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 07:26:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <763b1599-06b7-490e-9cbf-eb07f1deedb3@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNAR9Jt0FQNRidcxY-OxMh7N238Xs33Tyj+dpTZ5wGow0wQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, at 19:23, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 11:57 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, at 15:42, Jani Nikula wrote:
>
> It is unclear why WIREGUARD must be entirely disabled
> just because of the optional feature being modular.

I don't think anyone is asking for that, and the current
"depends on IPV6 || !IPV6" seems fine here, and is consistent
with dozens of other symbols.

> My preference is to use IS_REACHABLE(CONFIG_IPV6)
> instead of IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_IPV6)
> under drivers/net/wireguard, then
> get rid of "depends on IPV6 || !IPV6)

My feeling is that this would be significantly worse from a
usability point of view even if it made it a little easier
for maintainers:

When a user selects both IPV6 and WIREGUARD, they expect
to be able to use them together, and a normal user setting
WIREGUARD=y would have a hard time figuring out why that
leads it becoming IPv4-only.

> If you want to make it clearer on the Kconfig level,
> perhaps the following is also possible.
>
>
> config WIREGUARD
>        tristate "WireGuard"
>
> config WIREGUARD_IPV6
>        def_bool y
>        depends on WIREGUARD
>        depends on IPV6 >= WIREGUARD
>
> config IPV6
>        tristate "IPV6"

That has the same downside, with the added problem
of also confusing kernel developers with the '>='
Kconfig syntax, which IMHO makes no sense unless one
knows way too much about Kconfig internals.

      Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-15  5:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-13 11:37 Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-13 14:25 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-13 16:11 ` Sakari Ailus
2023-09-13 19:48 ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-13 19:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-13 20:34     ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-13 21:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14  3:51         ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-14  5:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14  3:56         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-14 17:07       ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-09-14 13:42 ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-14 14:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14 15:56     ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-14 17:23     ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-09-15  5:26       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-09-15  7:34         ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-15  7:44           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-15 15:48             ` Randy Dunlap

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