From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Dmitry Vyukov" <dvyukov@google.com>,
"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"Marc Zyngier" <maz@kernel.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: arm64 syzbot instances
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:34:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <771d89a8-b7e0-6095-b101-e7ae91bcdc85@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a2aQ0C7M2p3DBwjvK5mGyg2_8PQK2=FnkPFp3bVmt_xMw@mail.gmail.com>
>>
>> There's apparently a bit in the PCI spec that reads:
>> The host bus bridge, in PC compatible systems, must return all
>> 1's on a read transaction and discard data on a write transaction
>> when terminated with Master-Abort.
>>
>> which obviously applies only to "PC compatible systems".
>
> Right. As far as I can tell, all ARMv8 and most ARMv7 based SoCs
> do this to be more compatible with PC style operating systems like
> Linux, but you are right that the specification here does not
> mandate that, and the older ARMv5 SoCs seem to be compliant
> as well based on this.
>
>>> Linux has a driver for DPC, which apparently configures it to
>>> cause an interrupt to log the event, but it does not hook up the
>>> CPU exception handler to this. I don't see an implementation of DPC
>>> in qemu, which I take as an indication that it should use the
>>> default behavior and cause neither an interrupt nor a CPU exception.
>>
>> Hmm, maybe. We should probably also implement -1/discard just because
>> we're not intending to have 'surprising' behaviour.
>>
>> TBH I'm having difficulty seeing why the kernel should be doing
>> this at all, though. The device tree tells you you have a PCI
>> controller; PCI supports enumeration of devices; you know exactly
>> where everything is mapped because the BARs tell you that.
>> I don't see anything that justifies the kernel in randomly
>> dereferencing areas of the IO or memory windows where it hasn't
>> mapped anything.
BIOS has described a CPU-addressable PIO region in the PCI hostbridge,
and the kernel has mapped it:
[ 3.974309][ T1] pci-host-generic 4010000000.pcie: IO
0x003eff0000..0x003effffff -> 0x0000000000
So I don't see why any accesses there should fault.
>> You shouldn't be probing for legacy ISA-port
>> devices unless you're on a system which might actually have them
>> (eg an x86 PC).
>
> It only happened in this case because there is also a bug in
> the 8250 serial port driver that is configured to assume four ports
> exist at port zero. On real arm64 hardware, this is apparently
> harmless because the driver has coped with this for 30 years ;-)
>
> There are a few other drivers that assume hardware is accessible
> at the legacy addresses, and applications can also still open /dev/ioport
> (if that is enabled at compile time) for the same purpose. Examples
> could be PC-style mouse/keyboard (emulated by a server BMC),
> PATA/SATA controllers in pre-AHCI mode, VGA console, and a
> couple of industrial I/O drivers that have ISA devices behind a
> PCI bridge.
>
> Most other actual ISA add-on card drivers can only be enabled
> on kernels that support machines with real slots, so you could
> get them on an i386 kernel running a virtualized x86_64 machine,
> but not on ARMv6 or later kernels, and you can't run pre-ARMv7
> kernels on ARMv8 hardware.
> There are also lots of the hwmon drivers which use super IO, and probe
a fixed PIO addresses for HW detection. These may be enabled on any
architecture (apart from PPC, who explicitly disabled them to avoid
issues like this).
Thanks,
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-22 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-11 11:38 Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-11 12:33 ` Mark Rutland
2021-03-11 16:56 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-17 18:45 ` Mark Rutland
2021-03-18 8:32 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-11 17:11 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-11 13:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-11 17:25 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-12 6:42 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-11 17:57 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-12 8:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-12 8:46 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-12 9:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-12 9:21 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-12 10:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-12 10:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-12 10:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-15 9:43 ` John Garry
2021-03-15 10:01 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-15 10:29 ` John Garry
2021-03-15 10:34 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-15 11:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-20 20:43 ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-21 11:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-21 11:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-21 18:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-22 13:51 ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-22 15:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-22 16:34 ` John Garry [this message]
2021-03-22 16:49 ` Peter Maydell
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