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From: Joe Cao <caoco2002@yahoo.com>
To: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
Cc: Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	caoco2002@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: TCP stack bug related to F-RTO?
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:58:15 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <773030.8168.qm@web63404.mail.re1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0909251556130.13543@wel-95.cs.helsinki.fi>


Hi Ilpo,

Thanks for the reply!  Do you happen to know which patch fixed the problem? Is there a bug tracking system for linux kernel?

I studied the FRTO code in latest kernel 2.6.31.  It seems the problem is still there:  

1. Every time a RTO fires, because tcp_is_sackfrto(tp) returns 1, tcp_use_frto() returns true.  And the server tcp enters FRTO.
2. After the head of write queue is retransmitted, two new data packets are transmitted, the server receives two dup-ACKs.  That will make the TCP enter tcp_enter_frto_loss(), however, that only rests ssthresh and some other fields.
3. After another longer RTO fires, because tcp_is_sackfrto(tp) returns 1, tcp_use_frto() again returns true.  The stack enters FRTO again.
4. The above repeats and the stack couldn't retransmits the lost packets faster.

Is my understanding above correct?

Thanks,
Joe 

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi> wrote:

> From: Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
> Subject: Re: TCP stack bug related to F-RTO?
> To: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
> Cc: "Joe Cao" <caoco2002@yahoo.com>, "Netdev" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, jcaoco2002@yahoo.com
> Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 6:09 AM
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Ray Lee wrote:
> 
> > [adding netdev cc:]
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Joe Cao <caoco2002@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have found the following behavior with
> different versions of linux 
> > > kernel. The attached pcap trace is collected with
> server 
> > > (192.168.0.13) running 2.6.24 and shows the
> problem. Basically the 
> > > behavior is like this: 
> > >
> > > 1. The client opens up a big window,
> > > 2. the server sends 19 packets in a row (pkt #14-
> #32 in the trace), but all of them are dropped due to some
> congestion.
> > > 3. The server hits RTO and retransmits pkt #14 in
> #33
> > > 4. The client immediately acks #33 (=#14), and
> the server (seems like to enter F-RTO) expends the window
> and sends *NEW* pkt #35 & #36.=A0 Timeoute is doubled to
> 2*RTO; The client immediately sends two Dup-ack to #35 and
> #36.
> > > 5. after 2*RTO, pkt #15 is retransmitted in #39.
> > > 6. The client immediately acks #39 (=#15) in #40,
> and the server continues to expand the window and sends two
> *NEW* pkt #41 & #42. Now the timeoute is doubled to 4
> *RTO.
> > > 8. After 4*RTO timeout, #16 is retransmitted.
> > > 9....
> > > 10. The above steps repeats for retransmitting
> pkt #16-#32 and each time the timeout is doubled.
> > > 11. It takes a long long time to retransmit all
> the lost packets and before that is done, the client sends a
> RST because of timeout.
> > >
> > > The above behavior looks like F-RTO is in effect.
>  And there seems to 
> > > be a bug in the TCP's congestion control and
> retransmission algorithm. 
> > > Why doesn't the TCP on server (running 2.6.24)
> enter the slow start? 
> > > Why should the server take that long to recover
> from a short period 
> > > of packet loss?
> > >
> > > Has anyone else noticed similar problem before?
>  If my analysis was 
> > > wrong, can anyone gives me some pointers to
> what's really wrong and 
> > > how to fix it?
> 
> Yes, 2.6.24 is an obsoleted version with known wrongs in
> FRTO 
> implementation. Fixes never when to 2.6.24 stable series as
> it was 
> _already_ obsoleted when the problems where reported and
> found. The 
> correct fixes may be found from 2.6.25.7 (.7 iirc) and are
> included from 
> 2.6.26 onward too.
> 
> Just in case you happen to run ubuntu based kernel from
> that era (of 
> course you should be reporting the bug here then...), a
> word of warning: 
> it seemed nearly impossible for them to get a simple thing
> like that 
> fixed, I haven't been looking if they'd eventually come to
> some sensible 
> conclusion in that matter or is it still unresolved (or
> e.g., closed 
> without real resolution).
> 
> -- 
>  i.


      


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-25 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-24 17:43 Joe Cao
2009-09-24 23:39 ` Ray Lee
2009-09-25 13:09   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2009-09-25 15:58     ` Joe Cao [this message]
2009-09-25 18:03       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2009-09-26  1:50         ` Joe Cao
2009-09-26 16:53         ` Joe Cao
2009-09-26 17:51           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2009-09-26 20:48             ` Joe Cao
2009-09-25  2:32 ` zhigang gong
2009-09-25  6:42   ` Joe Cao
2009-09-25  8:55     ` zhigang gong
2009-09-25 16:02       ` Joe Cao

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