From: "zhangjian (CG)" <zhangjian496@huawei.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>, <anna@kernel.org>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Question]nfs: should nfs timeout even with NFS_CS_NO_RETRANS_TIMEOUT ?
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 12:19:46 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <77b2c3ea-52d0-4f2f-8cca-4481f3426fc5@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80c9ba69f1d35928ea9d21e146e60f194cff7405.camel@kernel.org>
On 3/6/2026 12:49 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Fri, 2026-03-06 at 10:46 +0800, zhangjian (CG) wrote:
>> Hi experts on NFS:
>>
>> Recently we meet an error:
>> 1.Nfs wait for sunrpc
>> 2.Sunrpc send OPEN message and hang the rpc task onto sunrpc pending
>> queue.
>> 3.Server never reply, and since NFS_CS_NO_RETRANS_TIMEOUT is forced
>> and
>> connection is ESTABLISHED, task will never be retransmitted.
>> This cause procedures waiting on this file hang forever.
>> I know using "umount -f " to kill rpc task works. And the key to the
>> problem most likely lies in the network layer. But should nfs
>> retransmit
>> it after waiting for so long?
>>
>> Wish for reply. Thanks
>>
>> Zhangjian
>>
> Please read the NFSv4 spec. It very clearly states that the client
> should never retransmit unless the connection breaks.
>
NFSv4 spec said client should never retransmit, but not said client need
to wait forever. Maybe sunrpc should tell nfs -ETIMEOUT and nfs return
ERROR rather than retransmit.
> IOW: the problem here is your broken server, not the client.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-12 4:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-11 12:48 [Question]nfs: never returned delegation zhangjian (CG)
2025-08-11 13:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2025-08-12 2:51 ` zhangjian (CG)
2025-09-01 9:07 ` Li Lingfeng
2025-09-01 11:40 ` Jeff Layton
2025-09-01 14:12 ` Li Lingfeng
2025-08-11 13:03 ` Jeff Layton
2025-08-11 13:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2025-08-12 2:45 ` zhangjian (CG)
2026-03-06 2:46 ` zhangjian (CG)
2026-03-06 4:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2026-03-12 4:19 ` zhangjian (CG) [this message]
2026-03-12 13:09 ` [Question]nfs: should nfs timeout even with NFS_CS_NO_RETRANS_TIMEOUT ? Trond Myklebust
2026-03-13 3:22 ` zhangjian (CG)
2026-03-13 15:18 ` Trond Myklebust
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