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From: simon@mungewell.org
To: "Roland Bosa" <rbosa@logitech.com>
Cc: "Elias Vanderstuyft" <elias.vds@gmail.com>,
	"\"Michal Malý\"" <madcatxster@devoid-pointer.net>,
	"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"HID CORE LAYER" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jiri Kosina" <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	"Anssi Hannula" <anssi.hannula@iki.fi>,
	"Simon Wood" <simon@mungewell.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/24] input: Add ff-memless-next module
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:42:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77e93715d28deb2ec0508f9326f9102f.squirrel@mungewell.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <537D28E3.3000401@logitech.com>


>> But 2 Spring effects with different offsets and non-zero effective
>> force can't be combined into a single slot (without streaming them
>> with Constant force), right?
>
> Yes - you cannot *download* two springs to a single slot. You need to
> choose (allocate) one of them. The winner gets the slot. The losers go
> somewhere else (they might get discarded, they might get simulated).

In reverse engineering, I thought that a single slot could hold two
rotational angles/points (at which a springs would start) and that that
the direction could be set so that both acting in the same direction with
different forces.
--
    Byte 2 - 0x_1
    Byte 3 - Clockwise angle, nominally on left (0x00..0xFF - 0x00 is
fully left)
    Byte 4 - Anti-Clockwise angle, nominally on right(0x00..0xFF)
    Byte 5 - L/R Proportion force, upper nibble clockwise + lower nibble
anti-clockwise (each 0x0..0xF)
    Byte 6 - Reverse Direction; upper nibble clockwise + lower nibble
anti-clockwise (each 0x0..0x1)
    Byte 7 - Force (0x00..0xFF)
--

Ie. turning from fully left (00) with no force, you could hit a 'weak'
spring (at 40) and then a 'stronger' spring (at 80).

So to some degree you /can/ merge springs... but I'm not saying that you
should :-).
Simon


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-26 15:01 [PATCH v4 00/24] input: Introduce ff-memless-next as an improved replacement for ff-memless Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/24] input: Add ff-memless-next module Michal Malý
2014-05-14  6:38   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-05-14  8:35     ` Michal Malý
2014-05-14 11:26       ` Elias Vanderstuyft
2014-05-14 15:11       ` simon
2014-05-14 17:58         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-05-14 18:05       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-05-14 19:38         ` Michal Malý
2014-05-20  9:27         ` Michal Malý
2014-05-20 18:32           ` Roland Bosa
2014-05-20 19:00             ` Michal Malý
2014-05-20 21:38               ` Roland Bosa
2014-05-21 14:53                 ` Elias Vanderstuyft
     [not found]                   ` <537D28E3.3000401@logitech.com>
2014-05-21 22:42                     ` simon [this message]
2014-05-20 19:39             ` simon
2014-05-20 22:04               ` Roland Bosa
2014-05-20 23:30                 ` simon
2014-05-21  1:17                   ` Roland Bosa
2014-05-21  2:13                     ` Michal Malý
2014-05-21 10:17                       ` Nestor Lopez Casado
2014-05-21 14:08                         ` Elias Vanderstuyft
2014-05-21 13:35                       ` Elias Vanderstuyft
2014-05-21 14:22                         ` Elias Vanderstuyft
2014-05-21 14:05                       ` Elias Vanderstuyft
2014-05-20 20:16           ` simon
2014-05-20 20:58             ` Michal Malý
2014-05-20 21:26               ` Elias Vanderstuyft
2014-05-22  9:48                 ` Elias Vanderstuyft
2014-05-20 23:45               ` simon
2014-05-21  0:08                 ` Michal Malý
2014-05-14 18:14   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-05-14 19:40     ` Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/24] input: Port arizona-haptics to ff-memless-next Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/24] input: Port twl4030-vibra " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/24] input: Port twl6040-vibra " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/24] input: Port max8997_haptic " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/24] input: Port pm8xxx-vibrator " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/24] hid: Port hid-axff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/24] hid: Port hid-emsff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/24] hid: Port hid-dr " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/24] hid: Port hid-gaff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 11/24] hid: Port hid-holtekff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 12/24] hid: Port hid-lgff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 13/24] hid: Port hid-lg3ff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 14/24] hid: Port hid-pl " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 15/24] hid: Port hid-sjoy " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 16/24] hid: Port hid-sony " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 17/24] hid: Port hid-tmff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 18/24] hid: Port hid-wiimote-modules " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 19/24] hid: Port hid-zpff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 20/24] input: Port gamecon " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 21/24] input: Port xpad " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 22/24] hid: Port hid-lg2ff " Michal Malý
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 23/24] hid: Port hid-lg4ff " Michal Malý
2014-04-29 16:05   ` simon
2014-04-26 15:02 ` [PATCH v4 24/24] input: Replace ff-memless with ff-memless-next Michal Malý
2014-04-29 15:59 ` [PATCH v4 00/24] input: Introduce ff-memless-next as an improved replacement for ff-memless simon
2014-05-12  9:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-12  9:26   ` Michal Malý

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