From: "Albert Cahalan" <acahalan@gmail.com>
To: "Jan Engelhardt" <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: ray-gmail@madrabbit.org, "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
"Greg KH" <greg@kroah.com>,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, efault@gmx.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Opinions on removing /proc/tty?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:07:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <787b0d920607101807j2804023v17f7643bffeb2456@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0607110015030.5420@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
On 7/10/06, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de> wrote:
> >> > Just do /proc/*/tty links and all will be good. This even
> >> > handles the case of two different names for the same dev_t.
> >> >
> >> Is this for the controlling tty? Then it should be ctty.
> >
> > Eeeew, an extra byte so it can look ugly.
> > What other special tty is there?
> >
> Any fd, for that matter.
>
> 00:09 shanghai:/dev/shm > ls -l /proc/$$/fd
> total 4
> dr-x------ 2 jengelh users 0 Jul 11 00:16 .
> dr-xr-xr-x 5 jengelh root 0 Jul 11 00:04 ..
> lrwx------ 1 jengelh users 64 Jul 11 00:16 0 -> /dev/pts/2
> lrwx------ 1 jengelh users 64 Jul 11 00:16 1 -> /dev/pts/2
> lrwx------ 1 jengelh users 64 Jul 11 00:16 2 -> /dev/pts/2
> lrwx------ 1 jengelh users 64 Jul 11 00:16 255 -> /dev/pts/2
> and CTTY is /dev/tty1.
>
> So what would /proc/$$/tty - ambiguous name - point to, the normal (attached)
> or the ctty? Not to mention exotic, yet possible things
The tty is obviously one and the same as:
a. "tty" in the kernel's struct signal_struct
b. the "TTY" or "TT" reported by ps.
c. what "/dev/tty" refers to
Any other tty is not "the tty". Exactly one tty is special.
On any of Linux, MacOS, Solaris, NetBSD, OpenBSD:
$ ls /dev/tty /dev/ctty
ls: /dev/ctty: No such file or directory
/dev/tty
Lord only knows why FreeBSD has both.
Unlike Linux, they don't supply a man page.
On a Linux system, "man 4 tty" is useful.
On a Solaris system, "man -s 7d tty" is useful.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-11 1:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-09 5:30 Albert Cahalan
2006-07-09 14:04 ` Jon Smirl
2006-07-09 16:23 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-09 17:00 ` Ray Lee
2006-07-09 17:08 ` Ray Lee
2006-07-09 19:26 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-09 19:31 ` Russell King
2006-07-09 19:57 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-10 14:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-10 15:06 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-10 22:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-11 1:07 ` Albert Cahalan [this message]
2006-07-11 1:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-08 2:56 Jon Smirl
2006-07-08 5:30 ` Randy.Dunlap
[not found] ` <9e4733910607072256q65188526uc5cb706ec3ecbaee@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-09 5:04 ` Randy.Dunlap
[not found] ` <9e4733910607082220v754a000ak7e75ae4042a5e595@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-09 5:27 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-09 10:07 ` Antonino A. Daplas
[not found] ` <9e4733910607090645l236f17f1sb9778f0fc6c6ca01@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-09 17:35 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-09 23:31 ` Antonino A. Daplas
[not found] ` <9e4733910607091744k273a7351l16abbcc6ff8c4bbd@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-11 22:01 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <9e4733910607111532s3fc2bb52q3f0247a9f2289d4e@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-13 18:37 ` Greg KH
2006-07-08 7:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-07-08 14:12 ` Jon Smirl
2006-07-08 14:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-08 16:20 ` Jon Smirl
2006-07-08 17:20 ` Russell King
2006-07-11 22:03 ` Greg KH
2006-07-08 16:12 ` Greg KH
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