From: "Albert Cahalan" <acahalan@gmail.com>
To: ak@suse.de, tytso@mit.edu, ebiederm@xmission.com,
drepper@redhat.com, arjan@infradead.org, rdunlap@xenotime.net,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:00:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <787b0d920607122200m4785f7ddmddf40c079a7460cb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Andi Kleen writes:
> On Thursday 13 July 2006 01:24, Theodore Tso wrote:
>> P.S. I happen to be one those developers who think the binary
>> interface is not so bad, and for compared to reading from /proc/sys,
>> the sysctl syscall *is* faster. But at the same there, there really
>> isn't anything where really does require that kind of speed, so that
>> point is moot. But at the same time, what is the cost of leaving
>> sys_sysctl in the kernel for an extra 6-12 months, or even longer,
>> starting from now?
>
> The numerical namespace for sysctl is unsalvagable imho. e.g.
> distributions regularly break it because there is no central
> repository of numbers so it's not very usable anyways in practice.
Huh? How exactly is this different from system call numbers,
ioctl numbers, fcntl numbers, ptrace command numbers, and every
other part of the Linux ABI?
Normal sysctl works very well for FreeBSD. I'm jealous.
They also have a few related calls that are very nice.
Here we fight over a few CPU cycles in the syscall entry path,
then piss away performance by requiring open-read-close and
marshalling everything through decimal ASCII text. WTF? Let's
just have one system call (make_XML_SOAP_request) and be done.
next reply other threads:[~2006-07-13 5:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-13 5:00 Albert Cahalan [this message]
2006-07-13 5:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13 6:09 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 6:13 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 16:15 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 16:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 17:06 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 15:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-10 22:39 [PATCH] sysctl: Document that sys_sysctl will be removed Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-10 22:50 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-11 4:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11 7:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 16:25 ` [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 16:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 17:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 23:24 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-12 23:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 0:12 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-13 2:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 12:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-12 23:44 ` Steve Munroe
2006-07-14 18:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:09 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 0:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 18:44 ` Roland McGrath
2006-07-12 19:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 19:53 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-07-12 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 21:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 21:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 22:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 22:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 23:07 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-12 23:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-14 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:33 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-13 5:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-13 6:27 ` Ian Wienand
2006-07-13 14:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 15:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
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