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From: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
To: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf: Mark kfuncs as __noclone
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 10:03:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78d0a599-4917-4551-b4c1-2c3cab743b8c@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <622cc7980bad96bb2c7ac8d23619da1374c794a4.camel@gmail.com>



On 8/26/25 11:52 PM, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-08-27 at 07:41 +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 10:02:31PM -0700, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2025-08-26 at 13:17 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> I tried with gcc14 and can reproduced the issue described in the above.
>>>> I build the kernel like below with gcc14
>>>>     make KCFLAGS='-O3' -j
>>>> and get the following build error
>>>>     WARN: resolve_btfids: unresolved symbol bpf_strnchr
>>>>     make[2]: *** [/home/yhs/work/bpf-next/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux:91: vmlinux] Error 255
>>>>     make[2]: *** Deleting file 'vmlinux'
>>>> Checking the symbol table:
>>>>      22276: ffffffff81b15260   249 FUNC    LOCAL  DEFAULT    1 bpf_strnchr.cons[...]
>>>>     235128: ffffffff81b1f540   296 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT    1 bpf_strnchr
>>>> and the disasm code:
>>>>     bpf_strnchr:
>>>>       ...
>>>>
>>>>     bpf_strchr:
>>>>       ...
>>>>       bpf_strnchr.constprop.0
>>>>       ...
>>>>
>>>> So in symbol table, we have both bpf_strnchr.constprop.0 and bpf_strnchr.
>>>> For such case, pahole will skip func bpf_strnchr hence the above resolve_btfids
>>>> failure.
>>>>
>>>> The solution in this patch can indeed resolve this issue.
>>> It looks like instead of adding __noclone there is an option to
>>> improve pahole's filtering of ambiguous functions.
>>> Abstractly, there is nothing wrong with having a clone of a global
>>> function that has undergone additional optimizations. As long as the
>>> original symbol exists, everything should be fine.
>>>
>>> Since kfuncs are global, this should guarantee that the compiler does not
>>> change their signature, correct? Does this also hold for LTO builds?
>>> If so, when pahole sees a set of symbols like [foo, foo.1, foo.2, ...],
>>> with 'foo' being global and the rest local, then there is no real need
>>> to filter out 'foo'.
>>>
>>> Wdyt?
>> I think we should do both: fix resolve_btfids to ignore compiler
>> optimization suffixes (.isra., .constprop., .part., .cold, ...) and add
>> __noclone.
>>
>> This feels like the safest path IMHO. Fixing resolve_btfids alone works
>> with current compilers, but future compiler versions, under aggressive
>> IPA/LTO optimizations, might decide that the main global symbol is
>> redundant and drop it altogether, leading to similar issues.
>>
>> Basically, fixing the tool makes the BTF pipeline more robust, adding
>> __noclone also makes the exported symbols themselves more robust,
>> regardless of compiler optimizations.
> If we are being really paranoid about LTO builds, is __noclone sufficient?
> E.g. [1] does not imply that signature can't be changed.
> We currently apply only __retain__, here is a little test with both attributes:
>
>      $ cat foo.c
>      __attribute__((__noclone__, __retain__))
>      int foo(int a) {
>        return a;
>      }
>
>      $ cat main.c
>      int foo(int);
>
>      int main(int argc, char **argv) {
>        return foo(0);
>      }
>
>      $ gcc -O3 -Wall -flto foo.c main.c -o a.out

Currently kernel does not support LTO for gcc build.

>      $ nm a.out | grep foo
>      $ objdump -Sdr a.out | grep foo
>      $ objdump -Sdr a.out | less
>      $ nm a.out | grep foo | wc -l
>      0
>      $ objdump -Sdr a.out | grep foo | wc -l
>      0
>
> export.h:EXPORT_SYMBOL does the following trick:
>
>    extern typeof(cachemode2protval) cachemode2protval;
>    static void * __attribute__((__used__))
>           __attribute__((__section__(".discard.addressable")))
>           __UNIQUE_ID___addressable_cachemode2protval489 = (void *)(uintptr_t)&cachemode2protval;
>           asm(".section \".export_symbol\",\"a\" ;\
>                __export_symbol_cachemode2protval: ;\
>                .asciz \"\" ;\
>                .ascii \"\" \"\\0\" ;\
>                .balign 8 ;\
>                .quad cachemode2protval ;\
>                .previous");
>
> Should we employ something similar?
>
> [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Common-Function-Attributes.html#index-noclone-function-attribute


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 14:05 Andrea Righi
2025-08-26 20:17 ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27  5:02   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  5:41     ` Andrea Righi
2025-08-27  6:52       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  7:01         ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  7:45           ` Andrea Righi
2025-08-27 17:03         ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2025-08-27 17:00     ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 19:13       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27 19:28         ` Alan Maguire
2025-08-27 19:41           ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27 19:52             ` Alan Maguire
2025-08-27 22:28               ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 22:10         ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27  2:10 ` David Vernet
2025-09-24  6:32 ` Andrea Righi
2025-09-24  7:26   ` Alexei Starovoitov

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