From: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Richard Cochran" <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
"Wen Gu" <guwen@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
"Anna-Maria Gleixner" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
shuah <shuah@kernel.org>, "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>,
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linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/7] timekeeping: Account for clocksource tick quantisation via NTP
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 16:10:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <78e84f2d-0feb-43e0-9d76-9e42f20d1503@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6458dfda-f477-4943-896b-857fae5ac871@app.fastmail.com>
On 09.07.2026 15:19, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2026, at 14:56, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
>> On 21.06.2026 23:53, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>
>> This patch landed yesterday in linux-next as commit e8bf3955dc2f
>> ("timekeeping: Account for clocksource tick quantisation via NTP").
>> In my tests I found that it breaks booting Raspberry Pi 3B and Pi 4B
>> boards in ARM 32bit mode with quite old (Debian 10) userspace.
> Are you running a 32-bit or 64-bit kernel with your 32-bit userspace?
32bit kernel and 32bit userspace.
>> Booting
>> freezes just before getting a getty login prompt and no more kernel
>> or userspace messages are observed. If I start with init=/bin/bash in
>> kernel cmdline and then wait a while and do "exec /sbin/init" I get
>> the following additional kernel message:
>>
>> [ 186.867605] Adjusting arch_sys_counter more than 11% (12136 vs 344864995)
>>
>> then booting freezes again before getting getty prompt.
>>
>> I can do some more tests, just let me know what will help debugging this
>> issue. Other ARM 32bit machines I have work fine with this patch.
>>
>> Reverting subject together with its dependencies on top of linux-next
>> fixes the issue.
> IIRC, there are some variants of these machines with broken
> arch timer. Can you check on the working kernel whether
> the vdso clock_gettime64 helper is enabled, and whether the
> "arm,cpu-registers-not-fw-configured" property is set on
> the arm,armv7-timer node?
It is not set. I use vanilla dtb from mainline.
> If it's not that, the difference between the working and
> non-working systems could be the clock frequency behind
> the arch timer, which differs wildly between systems,
> you should see a "cp15 timer running at ... MHz" message
> that tells you what is is
I use multi_v7_defconfig from arch/arm, it has CONFIG_VDSO=y.
Relevant lines from kernel log (RPi4 board, $subject patch reverted):
[ 0.000000] clocksource: jiffies: mask: 0xffffffff max_cycles: 0xffffffff, max_idle_ns: 19112604462750000 ns
[ 0.000001] sched_clock: 32 bits at 1000kHz, resolution 1000ns, wraps every 2147483647500ns
[ 0.008453] clocksource: timer: mask: 0xffffffff max_cycles: 0xffffffff, max_idle_ns: 1911260446275 ns
[ 0.017911] bcm2835: system timer (irq = 25)
[ 0.025858] arch_timer: cp15 timer running at 54.00MHz (sec-phys).
[ 0.032113] clocksource: arch_sys_counter: mask: 0xffffffffffffff max_cycles: 0xc743ce346, max_idle_ns: 440795203123 ns
[ 0.043023] sched_clock: 56 bits at 54MHz, resolution 18ns, wraps every 4398046511102ns
[ 0.051121] Switching to timer-based delay loop, resolution 18ns
root@target:~# grep -a "" /sys/firmware/devicetree/base/timer/compatible
arm,armv8-timer
root@target:~# ls -la /sys/firmware/devicetree/base/timer/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 00:00 .
drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 0 Jan 1 00:00 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 16 Jan 1 00:00 compatible
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 48 Jan 1 00:00 interrupts
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 6 Jan 1 00:00 name
With CONFIG_VDSO disabled same issue happens.
Adding "arm,cpu-registers-not-fw-configured" property to arch_timer
doesn't change anything.
Best regards
--
Marek Szyprowski, PhD
Samsung R&D Institute Poland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-09 14:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-21 21:53 [PATCH v7 0/7] timekeeping/ntp: Fix drift tracking precision David Woodhouse
2026-06-21 21:53 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] MAINTAINERS: Add Miroslav as timekeeping reviewer David Woodhouse
2026-07-07 22:22 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-06-21 21:53 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] timekeeping: Account for monotonicity adjustment in ntp_error David Woodhouse
2026-07-07 22:22 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-06-21 21:53 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] timekeeping: Account for clocksource tick quantisation via NTP David Woodhouse
2026-06-22 17:52 ` John Stultz
2026-07-07 19:27 ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-07 22:22 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
[not found] ` <CGME20260709125630eucas1p2d1acb4893a1c72dfba5312453c0971f2@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2026-07-09 12:56 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] " Marek Szyprowski
2026-07-09 13:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-09 14:10 ` Marek Szyprowski [this message]
2026-07-09 13:38 ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-09 14:42 ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-07-09 16:08 ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-09 16:21 ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-07-09 16:24 ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-10 7:25 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-06-21 21:53 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] timekeeping: Drive time_offset skew via per-tick ntp_error transfer David Woodhouse
2026-07-07 22:22 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-07-10 7:25 ` tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-06-21 21:53 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] timekeeping: Drive time_adjust " David Woodhouse
2026-07-07 22:22 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-07-10 7:25 ` tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-06-21 21:53 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] timekeeping: Settle competing time_offset and time_adjust skew David Woodhouse
2026-07-07 22:22 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-07-10 7:25 ` tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-06-21 21:54 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] ntp: Remove tick_length_base, use tick_length directly David Woodhouse
2026-07-07 22:22 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
2026-07-10 7:25 ` tip-bot2 for David Woodhouse
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