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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>
Cc: Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ben Luo <bn0418@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/7] kvm pvtimer
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:56:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78ebabd2-cc38-2694-b104-c5e0230aba15@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171213162800.GS10097@char.us.oracle.com>

On 13/12/2017 17:28, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> 1) VM idle path and network req/resp services:
> 
> Does this go away if you don't hit the idle path? Meaning if you
> loop without hitting HLT/MWAIT? I am assuming the issue you are facing
> is the latency - that is first time the guest comes from HLT and
> responds to the packet the latency is much higher than without?
> 
> And the arming of the timer? 
> 2) process context switches.
> 
> Is that related to the 1)? That is the 'schedule' call and the process
> going to sleep waiting for an interrupt or timer?
> 
> This all sounds like issues with low-CPU usage workloads where you
> need low latency responses?

Even high-CPU usage, as long as there is a small idle time.  The cost of
setting the TSC deadline timer twice is about 3000 cycles.

However, I think Amazon's approach of not intercepting HLT/MWAIT/PAUSE
can recover most of the performance and it's way less intrusive.

Thanks,

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-14 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-08  8:39 Quan Xu
2017-12-08  8:39 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] kvm: x86: emulate MSR_KVM_PV_TIMER_EN MSR Quan Xu
2017-12-08  8:39 ` [PATCH RFC 2/7] kvm: x86: add a function to exchange value Quan Xu
2017-12-08  8:39 ` [PATCH RFC 3/7] KVM: timer: synchronize tsc-deadline timestamp for guest Quan Xu
2017-12-08 15:06   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-12-14  1:54     ` Quan Xu
2017-12-08  8:39 ` [PATCH RFC 4/7] KVM: timer: program timer to a dedicated CPU Quan Xu
2017-12-08  8:39 ` [PATCH RFC 5/7] KVM: timer: ignore timer migration if pvtimer is enabled Quan Xu
2017-12-08  8:39 ` [PATCH RFC 6/7] Doc/KVM: introduce a new cpuid bit for kvm pvtimer Quan Xu
2017-12-08  8:39 ` [PATCH RFC 7/7] kvm: guest: reprogram guest timer Quan Xu
2017-12-08 15:10 ` [PATCH RFC 0/7] kvm pvtimer Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found]   ` <CAFv8KnF1Re7Zn2LVvqh=Sr8MmaWJJwZBB1i5ws03GvPVKXRjzA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-12-13 16:28     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-12-14  2:32       ` Quan Xu
2017-12-14 11:56       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-12-14 12:06         ` Quan Xu
2017-12-14 13:00           ` Paolo Bonzini

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