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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>
Cc: "dmatlack@google.com" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"isaku.yamahata@gmail.com" <isaku.yamahata@gmail.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"sagis@google.com" <sagis@google.com>,
	"isaku.yamahata@linux.intel.com" <isaku.yamahata@linux.intel.com>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Support TDX private mapping for TDP MMU
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 10:38:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <791ab3de8170d90909f3e053bf91485784d36c61.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d48522f37d75d63f09d2a5091e3fa91913531ee.camel@intel.com>

On Sat, 2024-05-18 at 15:41 +0000, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> On Sat, 2024-05-18 at 05:42 +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > 
> > No.  I meant "using kvm_mmu_page.role.mirrored_pt to determine whether to
> > invoke kvm_x86_ops::xx_private_spt()" is not correct.
> 
> I agree this looks wrong.
> 
> >   Instead, we should
> > use fault->is_private to determine:
> > 
> >         if (fault->is_private && kvm_x86_ops::xx_private_spt())
> >                 kvm_x86_ops::xx_private_spte();
> >         else
> >                 // normal TDP MMU operation
> > 
> > The reason is this pattern works not just for TDX, but also for SNP (and
> > SW_PROTECTED_VM) if they ever need specific page table ops.
> 
> I think the problem is there are a lot of things that are more on the mirrored
> concept side:
>  - Allocating the "real" PTE pages (i.e. sp->private_spt)
>  - Setting the PTE when the mirror changes
>  - Zapping the real PTE when the mirror is zapped (and there is no fault)
>  - etc
> 
> And on the private side there is just knowing that private faults should operate
> on the mirror root.

... and issue SEAMCALL to operate the real private page table?

> 
> The xx_private_spte() operations are actually just updating the real PTE for the
> mirror. In some ways it doesn't have to be about "private". It could be a mirror
> of something else and still need the updates. For SNP and others they don't need
> to do anything like that. (AFAIU)

AFAICT xx_private_spte() should issue SEAMCALL to operate the real private
page table?

> 
> So based on that, I tried to change the naming of xx_private_spt() to reflect
> that. Like:
> if (role.mirrored)
>   update_mirrored_pte()
> 
> The TDX code could encapsulate that mirrored updates need to update private EPT.
> Then I had a helper that answered the question of whether to handle private
> faults on the mirrored root.

I am fine with this too, but I am also fine with the existing pattern:

That we update the mirrored_pt using normal TDP MMU operation, and then
invoke the xx_private_spte() for private GPA.

My only true comment is, to me it seems more reasonable to invoke
xx_private_spte() based on fault->is_private, but not on
'use_mirrored_pt'.

See my reply to your question whether SNP needs special handling below.

> 
> The FREEZE stuff actually made a bit more sense too, because it was clear it
> wasn't a special TDX private memory thing, but just about the atomicity.
> 
> The problem was I couldn't get rid of all special things that are private (can't
> remember what now).
> 
> I wonder if I should give it a more proper try. What do you think?
> 
> At this point, I was just going to change the "mirrored" name to
> "private_mirrored". Then code that does either mirrored things or private things
> both looks correct. Basically making it clear that the MMU only supports
> mirroring private memory.

I don't have preference on name.  "mirrored_private" also works for me.

> 
> > 
> > Whether we are operating on the mirrored page table or not doesn't matter,
> > because we have already selected the root page table at the beginning of
> > kvm_tdp_mmu_map() based on whether the VM needs to use mirrored pt for
> > private mapping:
> 
> I think it does matter, especially for the other operations (not faults). Did
> you look at the other things checking the role?

Yeah I shouldn't say "doesn't matter".  I meant we can get this from the
iter->spetp or the root.

> 
> > 
> > 
> >         bool mirrored_pt = fault->is_private && kvm_use_mirrored_pt(kvm);
> > 
> >         tdp_mmu_for_each_pte(iter, mmu, mirrored_pt, raw_gfn, raw_gfn +
> > 1) 
> >         {
> >                 ...
> >         }
> > 
> > #define tdp_mmu_for_each_pte(_iter, _mmu, _mirrored_pt, _start, _end)   \
> >         for_each_tdp_pte(_iter,                                         \
> >                  root_to_sp((_mirrored_pt) ? _mmu->private_root_hpa :   \
> >                                 _mmu->root.hpa),                        \
> >                 _start, _end)
> > 
> > If you somehow needs the mirrored_pt in later time when handling the page
> > fault, you don't need another "mirrored_pt" in tdp_iter, because you can
> > easily get it from the sptep (or just get from the root):
> > 
> >         mirrored_pt = sptep_to_sp(sptep)->role.mirrored_pt;
> > 
> > What we really need to pass in is the fault->is_private, because we are
> > not able to get whether a GPN is private based on kvm_shared_gfn_mask()
> > for SNP and SW_PROTECTED_VM.
> 
> SNP and SW_PROTECTED_VM (today) don't need do anything special here, right?

Conceptually, I think SNP also needs to at least issue some command(s) to
update the RMP table to reflect the GFN<->PFN relationship.  From this
point, I do see a fit.

I briefly looked into SNP patchset, and I also raised the discussion there
(with you and Isaku copied):

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240501085210.2213060-1-michael.roth@amd.com/T/#m8ca554a6d4bad7fa94dedefcf5914df19c9b8051

I could be wrong, though.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-20 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-15  0:59 [PATCH 00/16] TDX MMU prep series part 1 Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 01/16] KVM: x86: Add a VM type define for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 02/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce a slot flag to zap only slot leafs on slot deletion Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 13:24   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 19:09     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 19:23       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 20:05         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 20:53           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 22:47             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 23:06               ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:20                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 23:36                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:12                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-17 15:30                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-22  1:29                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  2:31                       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  6:48                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 15:45                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-24  1:50                             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-15 23:56               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  2:21                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  3:56                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17 15:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-17 15:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-15 18:03   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 03/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-17  7:44   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-17  9:08     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 04/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Add address conversion functions for TDX shared bit of GPA Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 22:34   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:21     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:31       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:38         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:44           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:59             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:12               ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:19                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:25                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:35                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  1:04                       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:20                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  1:40                           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  5:52                             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-18  0:25                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 23:08                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  0:37                             ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-17  1:51                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  4:26                                 ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-17 21:12                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 05/16] KVM: Add member to struct kvm_gfn_range for target alias Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-17 20:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 06/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Add a new is_private member for union kvm_mmu_page_role Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 07/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Add a private pointer to struct kvm_mmu_page Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 08/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Bug the VM if kvm_zap_gfn_range() is called for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 13:27   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 15:22     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:14       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 15:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 15:49     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 15:56       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 16:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 16:12           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 18:09             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 18:22               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 19:48                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 20:32                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:26                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 16:22     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15 22:17       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:14         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:38           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:13             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:27               ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16  1:11               ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:15         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16  0:52           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  1:21           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16 17:27             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16 21:46   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 22:23     ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16 22:38       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 23:16         ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 09/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Make kvm_tdp_mmu_alloc_root() return void Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 10/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Support TDX private mapping for TDP MMU Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 17:35   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15 18:00     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:52   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:27     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  2:07       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  2:57         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 13:04           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16 16:36             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 19:42               ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-17  2:35                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  9:03                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-17 18:16                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17 19:16                       ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-20 23:32                         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-21 15:07                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-21 16:15                             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-22 22:34                               ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-22 23:09                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-22 23:47                                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-22 23:50                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-23  0:01                                       ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-23 18:27                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-24  7:55                                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 16:27                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-28 17:47                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-29  2:13                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  7:25                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-31 14:11                                                     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 17:43                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-28 17:16                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-28 18:29                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:06                             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  1:51                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  2:36                 ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-17  8:14                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-18  5:42                     ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-18 15:41                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-20 10:38                         ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2024-05-20 18:58                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-20 19:02                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-20 23:39                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-21  2:25                                 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-21  2:57                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-20 22:34                             ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:48     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16  2:00       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  2:10         ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-28 16:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-16 17:10         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-23 23:14   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-24  8:20     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 21:48       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:16         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  1:50           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  2:20             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  2:29               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-28 20:54   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:24     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 23:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:57     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  2:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29 16:55         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 11/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Extract root invalid check from tdx_mmu_next_root() Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 12/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Introduce KVM MMU root types to specify page table type Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 13/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Introduce shared, private KVM MMU root types Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 14/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Take root types for kvm_tdp_mmu_invalidate_all_roots() Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 15/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Make mmu notifier callbacks to check kvm_process Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 16/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Invalidate correct roots Rick Edgecombe

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