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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 0/4] x86: 5-level related changes into decompression code
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 11:01:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <793b9c55-e85b-97b5-c857-dd8edcda4081@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171129174851.jk2ai37uumxve6sg@pd.tnic>

On 11/29/17 09:48, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 08:08:31PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> We're really early in the boot -- startup_64 in decompression code -- and
>> I don't know a way print a message there. Is there a way?
>>
>> no_longmode handled by just hanging the machine. Is it enough for no_la57
>> case too?
> 
> Patch pls.
> 

I don't think there is any way to get a message out here.  It's too late
to use the firmware, and too early to use anything native.

no_longmode in startup_64 is an oxymoron -- it simply can't happen,
although of course we can enter at the 32-bit entry point with that problem.

We can hang the machine, or we can triple-fault it in the hope of
triggering a reset, and that way if the bootloader has been configured
with a backup kernel there is a hope of recovery.

Triple-faulting is trivial:

	push $0
	push $0
	lidt (%rsp)		/* %esp for 32-bit mode */
	ud2
	/* WTF? */
1:	hlt
	jmp 1b

This will either hang the machine or reboot it, depending on if the
reboot-on-triple-fault logic in the chipset actually works.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-29 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-10 22:06 Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-10 22:06 ` [PATCHv2 1/4] x86/boot/compressed/64: Rename pagetable.c to kaslr_64.c Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-10 22:06 ` [PATCHv2 2/4] x86/boot/compressed/64: Detect and handle 5-level paging at boot-time Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-10 22:06 ` [PATCHv2 3/4] x86/boot/compressed/64: Introduce place_trampoline() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-10 22:06 ` [PATCHv2 4/4] x86/boot/compressed/64: Handle 5-level paging boot if kernel is above 4G Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-22  8:09 ` [PATCHv2 0/4] x86: 5-level related changes into decompression code Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-29 15:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-29 16:13   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-29 16:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-29 17:08       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-29 17:48         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-29 19:01           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2017-11-29 19:19             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-29 21:33               ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-11-29 22:31                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-29 23:24                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-11-30  1:27                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-11-30 10:12                     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-30  7:31           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-30 10:14             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-30 15:45             ` Joe Perches
2017-11-29 20:58         ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-29 21:03           ` hpa

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