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From: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] leds: rgb: Implement per-key keyboard backlight for several TUXEDO devices
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:21:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79c27c71-a86b-4b30-aa1a-96b2f7bf26b4@tuxedocomputers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231011190017.1230898-1-wse@tuxedocomputers.com>

Hi,

Am 11.10.23 um 21:00 schrieb Werner Sembach:
> From: Christoffer Sandberg <cs@tuxedo.de>
>
> Implement per-key keyboard backlight in the leds sysfs interface for
> several TUXEDO devices using the ite8291 controller.
>
> There are however some known short comings:
> - The sysfs leds interface does only allow to write one key at a time. The
> controller however can only update row wise or the whole keyboard at once
> (whole keyboard update is currently not implemented). This means that even
> when you want to updated a whole row, the whole row is actually updated
> once for each key. So you actually write up to 18x as much as would be
> required.
> - When you want to update the brightness of the whole keyboard you have to
> write 126 sysfs entries, which inherently is somewhat slow, especially when
> using a slider that is live updating the brightness.
> - While the controller manages up to 126 leds, not all are actually
> populated. However the unused are not grouped at the end but also in
> between. To not have dead sysfs entries, this would require manual testing
> for each implemented device to see which leds are used and some kind of
> bitmap in the driver to sort out the unconnected ones.
> - It is not communicated to userspace which led entry controls which key
> exactly
>
> Co-developed-by: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
> Signed-off-by: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
> Signed-off-by: Christoffer Sandberg <cs@tuxedo.de>

The first time I submit a whole module, so please let me know if it made any 
mistakes e.g. I'm unsure if I need add myself explicitly as a maintainer, if 
MODULE_AUTHOR has to be a human, or if i have to split this up into smaller junks.

Also please let me know if i somehow misinterpreted the current API and the 
shortcomings can actually be avoided.

I have not yet looked deeply into triggers, but one idea i had is to only have 
one kbd_backlight by default that just makes the whole keyboard the same color 
and brightness. In addition to that a trigger per_key_control, that, when set, 
adds 125*3 subleds to write the whole keyboard in rainbow colors with a single 
echo to multi_intensity.

The keyboard also supports hardware color effects like color cycle, which 
continuously and smoothly cycles through up to 7 colors. Could this also be 
implemented with a trigger? That trigger would need to add a new entry nr_colors 
and also respectively additional subleds or additional multi_intensity_* entries.

An additional though I had was that it would be nice if the driver could somehow 
communicate the physical location of the key to the userspace for UIs to 
automatically generate a keyboard view to graphically set individual colors.

Kind regards,

Werner Sembach


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-11 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-11 19:00 Werner Sembach
2023-10-11 19:21 ` Werner Sembach [this message]
2023-10-12  8:58 ` Pavel Machek
2023-10-12 10:02   ` Werner Sembach
2023-10-12 14:05     ` Pavel Machek
2023-10-12 16:35       ` Werner Sembach
2023-10-13 12:19         ` Pavel Machek
2023-10-13 14:38           ` Werner Sembach
2023-10-13 14:54           ` Implement per-key keyboard backlight as auxdisplay? Werner Sembach
2023-10-13 19:56             ` Pavel Machek
2023-10-13 20:03               ` Pavel Machek
2023-10-16 10:57               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-23 11:40                 ` Jani Nikula
2023-10-23 11:44                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-11-20 20:53                     ` Pavel Machek
2023-11-20 20:52                   ` Pavel Machek
2023-11-21 11:33                     ` Werner Sembach
2023-11-21 12:20                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-11-21 13:29                         ` Werner Sembach
2023-11-22 18:34                           ` Hans de Goede
2023-11-27 10:59                             ` Werner Sembach
2023-12-29 19:13                               ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-17 15:26                               ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-17 16:50                               ` Userspace API for per key backlight for non HID (no hidraw) keyboards Hans de Goede
2024-01-17 19:03                                 ` Armin Wolf
2024-01-18  0:58                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-18 17:45                               ` Implement per-key keyboard backlight as auxdisplay? Pavel Machek
2024-01-18 22:32                                 ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19  8:44                                 ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-19 10:51                                   ` Jani Nikula
2024-01-19 16:06                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 18:33                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-01-19 22:14                                       ` Pavel Machek
2024-01-23 16:51                                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 16:04                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-29 13:24                                     ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-30 11:12                                       ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-30 17:10                                         ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-30 18:09                                           ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-30 18:35                                             ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-30 19:08                                               ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-30 19:46                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-31 11:41                                                   ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux Werner Sembach
2024-01-31 15:52                                                     ` Roderick Colenbrander
2024-02-21 11:12                                                     ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v2 Werner Sembach
2024-02-21 22:17                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-22  9:04                                                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-02-22 17:38                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-23  8:53                                                             ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-07-23 20:40                                                               ` Keybaords with arrays of RGB LEDs was " Pavel Machek
2024-02-23  9:21                                                             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-22 10:46                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2024-02-22 11:38                                                           ` Gregor Riepl
2024-02-22 12:39                                                             ` Hans de Goede
2024-02-22 13:14                                                               ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v3 Werner Sembach
2024-03-18 11:11                                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-19 15:18                                                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-25 14:18                                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-25 17:01                                                                       ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-20 11:16                                                                 ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-20 11:33                                                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-20 18:45                                                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-25 14:25                                                                   ` In kernel virtual HID devices (was Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v3) Hans de Goede
2024-03-25 15:56                                                                     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-03-25 16:48                                                                       ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-25 18:30                                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-26  7:57                                                                           ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-26 15:39                                                                             ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-03-26 16:57                                                                               ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-27 11:03                                                                                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-03-28 23:52                                                                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-27 11:01                                                                               ` Hans de Goede
2024-07-24 17:36                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2024-07-24 21:08                                                                           ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-25 18:38                                                                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-09 13:33                                                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-02-22 17:42                                                               ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v2 Pavel Machek
2024-02-22 17:52                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-22 17:23                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-23  8:33                                                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 20:15                                   ` Implement per-key keyboard backlight as auxdisplay? Pavel Machek
2024-01-19 20:22                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 20:32                                       ` Pavel Machek
2024-01-29 13:24                                     ` Hans de Goede
2023-10-12 13:00 ` [PATCH] leds: rgb: Implement per-key keyboard backlight for several TUXEDO devices kernel test robot
2023-10-16 11:21 ` kernel test robot

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