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From: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
To: "Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@embeddedor.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Harshit Mogalapalli <harshit.m.mogalapalli@oracle.com>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, error27@gmail.com,
	gustavoars@kernel.org, Bryan Tan <bryantan@vmware.com>,
	Vishnu Dasa <vdasa@vmware.com>,
	VMware PV-Drivers Reviewers <pv-drivers@vmware.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vegard.nossum@oracle.com,
	darren.kenny@oracle.com, syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] VMCI: Fix memcpy() run-time warning in dg_dispatch_as_host()
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 12:07:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79ca2f85-1f8d-4a12-aa5a-09137033605f@moroto.mountain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c742547-0021-464b-b7a8-7af46b0a4afa@embeddedor.com>

On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 08:05:38PM -0600, Gustavo A. R. Silva wrote:
> > > Gustavo quoted:
> > > "Under FORTIFY_SOURCE we should not copy data across multiple members
> > > in a structure."
> > > 
> > > Reported-by: syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
> > > Suggested-by: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
> > > Suggested-by: Gustavo A. R. Silva <gustavoars@kernel.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Harshit Mogalapalli <harshit.m.mogalapalli@oracle.com>
> > 
> > Thanks for getting this fixed!
> > 
> > Yeah, it's a "false positive" in the sense that the code was expecting
> 
> It's a false positive _bug_, and a legitimate _warning_ coming from fortified
> memcpy().

It really feels like you're trying to sell the cost of this as a good
thing...  We've already merged fortify so why are you still fighting
about this?  Now that it's merged, let's just all admit that false
positives are bad.

I feel like once we recognize that actually false positives are bad as
opposed to good then that's when we start looking for solutions.  In
Smatch, I have code that silences warnings about cross member writes
because it was a common source of false positives...

The Kconfig entry does not mention the risk of false positives at all
and it doesn't say anything about turning on fortify along with
CONFIG_PANIC_ON_OOPS is probably bad.  There are simple things we could
do to make this less risky.

regards,
dan carpenter


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-09  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-05 16:39 [PATCH v2 1/2] VMCI: Use struct_size() in kmalloc() Harshit Mogalapalli
2024-01-05 16:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] VMCI: Fix memcpy() run-time warning in dg_dispatch_as_host() Harshit Mogalapalli
2024-01-05 17:11   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-08  7:33   ` Dan Carpenter
2024-01-08 17:03     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-08 17:31       ` Harshit Mogalapalli
2024-01-08 17:38         ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-08 18:36       ` Dan Carpenter
2024-01-08 19:21         ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-08 22:37   ` Kees Cook
2024-01-09  2:05     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-09  9:07       ` Dan Carpenter [this message]
2024-01-09 12:31         ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-09 13:22           ` Dan Carpenter
2024-01-09 14:35             ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-11  0:03       ` Kees Cook
2024-01-11  7:15         ` Dan Carpenter
2024-01-11 18:13           ` Kees Cook
2024-01-12  5:35             ` Dan Carpenter
2024-01-11 12:53   ` kovalev
2024-02-16  7:35     ` Harshit Mogalapalli
2024-01-05 16:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] VMCI: Use struct_size() in kmalloc() Gustavo A. R. Silva
2024-01-08 22:28 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-01 18:06 ` Kees Cook

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