From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
frankeh@watson.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
devel@openvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:21:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7CCC1159-BF55-4961-BC24-A759F893D43F@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1mzh02y3m.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On Feb 09, 2006, at 13:20, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> writes:
>> Well, for now software suspend is done at very different level (it
>> snapshots complete kernel state), but being able to use migration
>> for this is certainly nice option.
>>
>> BTW you could do whole-machine-migration now with uswsusp; but
>> you'd need identical hardware and it would take a bit long...
>
> Right part of the goal is with doing it as we are doing it is that
> we can define what the interesting state is.
>
> Replacing software suspend is not an immediate goal but I think it
> is a worthy thing to target. In part because if we really can rip
> things out of the kernel store them in a portable format and
> restore them we will also have the ability to upgrade the kernel
> with out stopping user space applications...
>
> But being able to avoid the uninteresting parts, and having the
> policy complete controlled outside the kernel are the big wins we
> are shooting for.
<wishful thinking>
I can see another extension to this functionality. With appropriate
changes it might also be possible to have a container exist across
multiple computers using some cluster code for synchronization and
fencing. The outermost container would be the system boot container,
and multiple inner containers would use some sort of network-
container-aware cluster filesystem to spread multiple vservers across
multiple servers, distributing CPU and network load appropriately.
</wishful thinking>
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you
looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
-- Poul Anderson
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-10 0:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-03 16:58 [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Virtualization/containers: UIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Virtualization/containers: UTSNAME Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 8:53 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 17:22 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 18:34 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-03 18:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-03 19:18 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 19:56 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 20:19 ` Greg KH
2006-02-03 20:34 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-05 15:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:39 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06 9:08 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:31 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 12:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:05 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:35 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 16:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-06 17:21 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 0:28 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 12:21 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 22:21 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 11:56 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 18:36 ` Summary: PID virtualization , Containers, Migration Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Rik van Riel
2006-02-05 14:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 9:00 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 9:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 18:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:40 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 1:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 21:54 ` swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup) Pavel Machek
2006-02-09 18:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 0:21 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2006-02-10 4:31 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10 6:23 ` [Devel] " Vasily Averin
2006-02-11 2:38 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-11 17:29 ` Vasily Averin
2006-02-12 23:29 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10 8:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 5:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-10 6:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 10:16 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-05 20:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06 9:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-02-06 9:03 ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
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