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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@gmail.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/9] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:50:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a3a2d49-528d-4297-ae19-56aa9e6c59c6@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6d89fdc9-ef55-d44e-bf12-fafff318aef8@redhat.com>

On 06/10/2023 21:06, David Hildenbrand wrote:
[...]
> 
> Change 2: sysfs interface.
> 
> If we call it THP, it shall go under "/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/", I
> agree.
> 
> What we expose there and how, is TBD. Again, not a friend of "orders" and
> bitmaps at all. We can do better if we want to go down that path.
> 
> Maybe we should take a look at hugetlb, and how they added support for multiple
> sizes. What *might* make sense could be (depending on which values we actually
> support!)
> 
> 
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-64kB/
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-128kB/
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-256kB/
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-512kB/
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-1024kB/
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-2048kB/
> 
> Each one would contain an "enabled" and "defrag" file. We want something minimal
> first? Start with the "enabled" option.
> 
> 
> enabled: always [global] madvise never
> 
> Initially, we would set it for PMD-sized THP to "global" and for everything else
> to "never".

Hi David,

I've just started coding this, and it occurs to me that I might need a small
clarification here; the existing global "enabled" control is used to drive
decisions for both anonymous memory and (non-shmem) file-backed memory. But the
proposed new per-size "enabled" is implicitly only controlling anon memory (for
now).

1) Is this potentially confusing for the user? Should we rename the per-size
controls to "anon_enabled"? Or is it preferable to jsut keep it vague for now so
we can reuse the same control for file-backed memory in future?

2) The global control will continue to drive the file-backed memory decision
(for now), even when hugepages-2048kB/enabled != "global"; agreed?

Thanks,
Ryan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-31 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29 11:44 Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary anon large folios Ryan Roberts
2023-10-05  8:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 13:45   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-09-29 14:39     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] mm: thp: Account pte-mapped anonymous THP usage Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] mm: thp: Introduce anon_orders and anon_always_mask sysfs files Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 22:55   ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-02 10:15     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-07 22:54     ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-10  0:20       ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-12  9:31         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-12 11:07         ` Michael Ellerman
2023-10-11  6:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] mm: thp: Extend THP to allocate anonymous large folios Ryan Roberts
     [not found]   ` <CGME20231005120507eucas1p13f50fa99f52808818840ee7db194e12e@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2023-10-05 12:05     ` Daniel Gomez
2023-10-05 12:49       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-05 14:59         ` Daniel Gomez
2023-10-27 23:04   ` John Hubbard
2023-10-30 11:43     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-30 23:25       ` John Hubbard
2023-11-01 13:56         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] mm: thp: Add "recommend" option for anon_orders Ryan Roberts
2023-10-06 20:08   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-06 22:28     ` Yu Zhao
2023-10-09 11:45       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-09 14:43         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-09 20:04         ` Yu Zhao
2023-10-10 10:16           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] arm64/mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-10-02 15:21   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-10-03  7:32     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-03 12:05       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-09-29 11:44 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] selftests/mm/cow: Add tests for small-order anon THP Ryan Roberts
2023-10-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory David Hildenbrand
2023-10-09 11:28   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-09 16:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-10 10:47       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-13 20:14         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-20 12:33   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 16:24     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 18:47       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-25 19:11         ` Yu Zhao
2023-10-26  9:53           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-26 15:19             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-25 19:10       ` John Hubbard
2023-10-31 11:50   ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-10-31 11:55     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-31 12:03       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-31 13:13         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-31 18:29       ` Yang Shi
2023-11-01 14:02         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-01 18:11           ` Yang Shi
2023-10-31 11:58     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-31 13:12       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-13  3:57 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-13  5:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-13 10:19     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-13 11:52       ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-13 12:12         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-13 14:52           ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-13 14:52       ` John Hubbard
2023-11-13 15:04       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-14 10:57         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 16:05           ` Matthew Wilcox

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