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From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
	Leonid Bloch <lbloch@nvidia.com>,
	Itay Avraham <itayavr@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 5/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add umem reg/unreg ioctl
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:18:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ae9adff-5a6a-4ca6-983b-1d866dae9199@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZV0bRpnhu/zWieTT@x130>

On 11/21/23 1:04 PM, Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> On 21 Nov 12:44, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:06:19 -0800 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
>>> high frequency diagnostic counters
>>
>> So is it a debug driver or not a debug driver?
>>
> 
> High frequency _diagnostic_ counters are a very useful tool for
> debugging a high performance chip. So yes this is for diagnostics/debug.
> 
>> Because I'm pretty sure some people want to have access to high freq
>> counters in production, across their fleet. What's worse David Ahern
>> has been pitching a way of exposing device counters which would be
>> common across netdev.
.

For context on the `what's worse ...` comment for those who have not
seen the netconf slides:
https://netdev.bots.linux.dev/netconf/2023/david.pdf

and I am having a hard time parsing Kuba's intent with that comment here
(knowing you did not like the pitch I made at netconf :-))


> 
> This is not netdev, this driver is to support ConnectX chips and SoCs
> with any stack, netdev/rdma/vdpa/virtio and internal chip units and
> acceleration engines, add to that ARM core diagnostics in case of
> Blue-Field DPUs.
> I am not looking for counting netdev ethernet packets in this driver.
> 
> I am also pretty sure David will also want an interface to access other
> than netdev counters, to get more visibility on how a specific chip is
> behaving.

yes, and h/w counters were part of the proposal. One thought is to
leverage userspace registered memory with the device vs mapping bar
space, but we have not moved beyond a theoretical discussion at this point.

> 
>> Definite nack on this patch.
> 
> Based on what ?

It's a generic interface argument?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-21 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-21  7:06 [PATCH V3 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 1/5] mlx5: Add aux dev for ctl interface Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 2/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add mlx5ctl misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-27 13:36   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 14:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-27 15:51       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 16:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-27 18:27           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 19:26             ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28  0:07               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28  4:46                 ` David Ahern
2023-11-28 14:53                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28 16:24                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-28 16:44                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28 17:52                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-28 18:33                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28 19:55                             ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28 20:10                             ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-29  9:08                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-04 21:37                                 ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-05  2:52                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-05 17:11                                     ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-06  4:48                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-07 15:54                                         ` David Ahern
2023-12-07 16:20                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-07 16:41                                         ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-07 17:23                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-07 18:06                                             ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-07 19:02                                               ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-08  5:29                                                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-08 13:34                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08  5:27                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-08 12:52                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-07 18:54                                           ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-13 16:55                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-28 19:31                         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28 16:52                     ` David Ahern
2023-11-27 18:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-29  9:08     ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-29  9:20       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-29 13:02         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29 15:41           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-29 18:07             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 3/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add info ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-27 19:09   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 20:39     ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28  9:13       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-29  8:53         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 4/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add command rpc ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 5/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add umem reg/unreg ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 20:44   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-21 21:04     ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 22:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-21 22:52         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 22:18       ` David Ahern [this message]
2023-11-21 22:46         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 23:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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